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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

01 Sep 2013   #1791
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Personally, I still cannot grasp the point in buying a new OS, then applying 3rd party fixes in order to make it look like what you already have.



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01 Sep 2013   #1792
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
My comment was not directed at you, John. It was just a general comment because it seems that's what most people are doing. If you are satisfied with Windows 8, by all means use it. I was just making a general comment.
Well I got it wrong then Steve mine were just upgrades and despite the general consensus of 8 being some two headed monster I still use both OS's and I think if anyone tries what I did they would see what I mean.
It only cost me $55 to do it and like I said was just an experiment on the main laptop and it now outperforms my Ivy Bridge with 7 by booting to login in 7 secs and login to desktop in the blink of an eye or however long it takes to type the PW shut down is almost instantaneous. Before itr was making a cup of coffee wile waiting.

You only need an old drive clone the 7 to it upgrade it and change the start up menu. If anyone has done this already and doesn't like it then all well and good - don't use it isn't rocket science. You just go back to 7 and carry on as was. My argument is that unless you try it then you either had a bad experience or are just too blinkered to try.
In my humble opinion despite what you think about Microsoft I reckon they are learning a fair bit out of this issue and well if that results in a system that eventually is better than 7 or 8 then is that not a good thing??
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01 Sep 2013   #1793
Wrend

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Debian GNU/Linux 64bit (virtual machine on a RAM drive)
 
 

Reboot speed, even from a hybrid form of hibernate, or whatnot, isn't important to me. My computer is on crunching for scientific research, hosting servers, running programs off a RAM drive, and so on almost 24/7 for weeks at a time. Likewise, I don't really have much need or use for an SSD, though I plan on eventually picking one up. Windows 8, not so much. It's basically a useless OS to me with features that I specifically don't want. Because of those features, I don't want to buy Windows 8 nor support the direction Microsoft is taking the Windows OS. I'm sticking with 7, because it works well for me, and I don't like the GUI of 8. Pretty straightforward rationale as I see it.

If other people like 8, or don't dislike it, then that's their opinion, and they are of course justified in acting accordingly. It also makes sense that the issues other people have with Windows 8 likely wouldn't be issues for them, and therefor those issues might not make sense to them, nor seem justified.
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02 Sep 2013   #1794
BlueGuy

W7 Ultimate 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wrend View Post
My computer is on crunching for scientific research, hosting servers..., and so on almost 24/7 for weeks at a time. Windows 8, not so much. It's basically a useless OS to me with features that I specifically don't want. Because of those features, I don't want to buy Windows 8 nor support the direction Microsoft is taking the Windows OS. I'm sticking with 7, because it works well for me, and I don't like the GUI of 8. Pretty straightforward rationale as I see it.


Ha! you took the words right out of my mind (so to speak)!
Was about to say the same thing but had the disadvantage of having to work the holiday weekend,
some industrial processes can't be switched off and on. Then needing sleep upon arriving home after
being relieved by the day shift. Eloquently put, none the less, I tip my hat.

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02 Sep 2013   #1795
Cr00zng

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX El Capitan, Windows 10 (VMware)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wrend View Post
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If other people like 8, or don't dislike it, then that's their opinion, and they are of course justified in acting accordingly. It also makes sense that the issues other people have with Windows 8 likely wouldn't be issues for them, and therefor those issues might not make sense to them, nor seem justified.


Except it is important for me that the laptop comes out of hibernation quickly and like the dual-interface, desktop and start up in that order...
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02 Sep 2013   #1796
BlueGuy

W7 Ultimate 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Personally, I still cannot grasp the point in buying a new OS, then applying 3rd party fixes in order to make it look like what you already have.
Well, how about the introduction of new technologies ?
Now I take it we're all desktop users here but when I go for coffee/hot chocolate and see the laptop users, they're typically average users that don't build systems or even know how to slipstream sata/ahci drivers and such like we do here, yet many do know how to install and just want the familiarity to continue as before after a new purchase. Isn't that what we're all bitching about here? Most average users don't know the difference between retail, OEM[ie.what newegg calls 'system builder'] and what the Dells, HPs etcetera, bundle at Best Buy. I still advise such users to order an OEM copy rather than trust their included recovery media in case of massive failure that would preclude access to the hidden partition on the boot drive.
These words have been stated somewhere here previously but I just wanted to encapsulate and reiterate the motives for going with the above choice.


Q. Your sig, I think I may have heard that phrase some time ago on Doctor Who.
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02 Sep 2013   #1797
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I think you missed my point. A Dell Windows 7 and an OEM Windows 7 is the same OS, just with the junk taken out. And they don't need to buy an OEM version, a standard ISO of windows 7 will validate on a Dell system, with their COA key.
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02 Sep 2013   #1798
BlueGuy

W7 Ultimate 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I think you missed my point. A Dell Windows 7 and an OEM Windows 7 is the same OS, just with the junk taken out. And they don't need to buy an OEM version, a standard ISO of windows 7 will validate on a Dell system, with their COA key.
Ah,yes!.....showing my age....pre-download from M$, you know but some I've met don't even know
how to burn, like my neighbour, teach him something one day......then forgets the next, in fact, he bought a tablet at the beginning of summer.


EDIT: Well, it is also my own personal habits over the years, every service pack that's been released
I've ordered the optical media because I like it in a form that can't be erased even though it will just sit on the shelf, once used/slipstreamed.
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02 Sep 2013   #1799
gregrocker

 

The only slipstreaming needing doing now is to get all of the multiple years´Updates into the Win7 installer since MS thought they were going to smother it in it´s crib and have no plans for one yet. This can be done with the procedure here: Update 7 installation media

Most drivers are in the media already, or quickly updated via Windows Updates in Win7. It´s hardly even worth the trouble to slipstream a single wireless driver when you can just put it in that PC´s backup.
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02 Sep 2013   #1800
BlueGuy

W7 Ultimate 32-bit
 
 

[QUOTE=gregrocker;2519620]The only slipstreaming needing doing now is to get all of the multiple years´Updates ......QUOTE]

That's what I've noticed since 2011, not as much work to do as with XP and 2000.
Plus development of vLite and HFSlip seems to have stalled.
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