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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

02 Mar 2013   #221
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

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Hey PaulGo! Love your Avatar!

Were you a die-hard Atari ST/TT/Falcon user?
I was.

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Plenty of people are still running Windows 98 !! so you don't always have to upgrade every time something new appears.
Cheers
jimbo
True I was a die-hard Windows 2000 Professional user until Adobe,Java,Mozilla et al got into using VC 2010++ and then the support upgrades stopped working, even though there are three or four guys working their butts off here;
Windows NT4 / 2000 / 2003 - MSFN Forum
to keep 2000 alive, I just got tired of tweaking using the unofficial updates, surrendered and installed XPPro, as it was most familiar with the classic theme [though I liked and kept the XP start menu] and now in the process of learning W7's differences in preparation for migrating. Good thing I've always used the PortableApps suite since it came out, keeps me from having to re-install all my main work apps so I just need to install the OSs and supporting utilities.

If you click one domain up you can find the Win'98 users and see their approaches.
-Later
Hi there
How about THIS -- some people are even running the old IBM MVS Mainframe OS on their laptops !!!
I'll bet for some old "grey haired IBM former system programmers" this must bring back memories (and it's STILL ALIVE and kicking even in 2013) !!!! The Hercules emulator executes S/370 / s390 instructions and it's a freebie if you want to delve back into Mainframe OS'es.

cheers
jimbo




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02 Mar 2013   #222
Lone Browncoat

2000Pro,XP SP3 x86..W7 on next build
 
 

Good for them.....but I got into the ST to get away from CLI!

Edit: & since there seems to be a classic theme in W7, I plan on using that for the desktop [call me a stick in the mud] then decide whether to use the W7 start menu or get that utility that emulates the XP start menu....don't know yet ... haven't gotten that far in the tutorials yet.
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02 Mar 2013   #223
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lone Browncoat View Post
Hey PaulGo! Love your Avatar!

Were you a die-hard Atari ST/TT/Falcon user?
I was.
I had the original Atari video game, the Lynx and the Jaguar along with the Atari 8 bit computer. In fact I still have an Atari 8 bit computer along with an Atari floppy disk drive and an Atari tape data player. Instead of the 16 bit Atari I went to the Amiga computer which I actually felt was more in the spirit of Atari. I actually wrote some complex business programs on the Atari (using Microsoft Basic) which originally ran on a mainframe and made several thousand dollars.
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02 Mar 2013   #224
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
I stand by my statement

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It's been many years since the share price reflected actual business/economic reality.
"Any resemblance to reality is purely coincidental and unintended."

The stock market is just a casino, where the rich gamble with other people's money.
Hi there
If you really think the stock market bears no relation to reality--well I just hope you don't ever have to worry about getting a pension in future years.
I stand by my statement.

A classic example is the Tech Bubble of the early 2000's.

"Companies" had ludicrous share prices, despite:
  • Not selling any products
  • Not providing any services
  • Not having any assets
  • Not paying any dividends
Q - Why were the prices so high, if they were based on "reality"?
A - The prices were based on brokers gambling with other people's money (i.e. completely unrelated to reality).

Let's compare Apple's share prices to their Dividend payments.
Apple's share price bears no relationship to their dividend payments (maximum yield = 0.89% in 2012).
Apple Inc. (AAPL) Dividend History

The Stock Market shows (and experts) constantly go on about a Price–Earnings Ratio of over 30 indicating that a share is over-valued.
Apple's P/E Ratio = ~167, which indicates that their share price bears no relationship to reality (i.e. it is almost entirely speculative).
Apple's share price should be ~$90 not ~$440.
Price

The only way the Stock Market will ever reflect reality, is if ALL Governments introduce exactly the same Anti-Speculation Tax.
Wall Street (and the foreign equivalents) will make sure that never happens.

My Super will be equal to $0 in 2 years time, regardless of the stock market conditions.
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02 Mar 2013   #225
crankypenguin

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I have tried Windows 8 and I was rather displeased with the overall operating system. In my humble opinion, Windows 7 is the new *Win Xp* and here to stay for a little while longer. It's strange, but I think I overheard of *Windows Blue* or something today. Microsoft already has the next revision coming up?
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02 Mar 2013   #226
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crankypenguin View Post
I have tried Windows 8 and I was rather displeased with the overall operating system. In my humble opinion, Windows 7 is the new *Win Xp* and here to stay for a little while longer. It's strange, but I think I overheard of *Windows Blue* or something today. Microsoft already has the next revision coming up?
Windows Blue | Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows
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02 Mar 2013   #227
crankypenguin

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crankypenguin View Post
I have tried Windows 8 and I was rather displeased with the overall operating system. In my humble opinion, Windows 7 is the new *Win Xp* and here to stay for a little while longer. It's strange, but I think I overheard of *Windows Blue* or something today. Microsoft already has the next revision coming up?
Windows Blue | Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows
Ah, thank you very much...that cleared that up.
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07 Mar 2013   #228
Fantail

7 x64 | 7 x64
 
 

Hey, what does Window 8 & the new Simcity have in common?
1 out of 5 stars!

On the other hand, if EA had MS's servers, it might actually work.
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07 Mar 2013   #229
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Can't disagree that the things Paul mentioned need looking at.

He is not addressing the main point.

The problem is windows 8 is not selling.

Do you think people are not buying 8 because of the app. situation?

Or is there another reason they are not buying it?

MS need to understand what the reason is and fix it. Fast.
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07 Mar 2013   #230
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Could the reason that it is not selling be that the computing public (not Geeks) don't like change? They are so used to XP at home and work are only now moving to Windows 7 at the corporate level. After the time between XP and Vista and the fix of 7 Windows 8 with the shocking Metro seems too soon. Also the regualr public who email, surf Pintrest, Facebook et al are finding an ipad fits the bill perfectly. I have plenty of friends who ask me what should I buy. I tell them look for a nice laptop and get Windows 7 if you don't like 8. Best Buy or whoever sell them an ipad as it suits exactly what they want. The can sit on the couch and surf. They don't care that they are walled in to Crapple. To them it is a computer for surfing.
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