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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

07 Mar 2013   #231
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

It is not because they don't like change. That is on old wives tale, which is being wheeled out as an excuse for dismal sales by a small number of win8 fans.

It is because they do not like having a mobile phone interface thrust at them.

They don't mind it on a phone - they don't want it on a proper machine. It is ok to include it as an option, not as default.

MS 1.5 to 2 bn existing users are rejecting it in huge numbers.

MS need to fix that.

After they have done that - they need a presence at the lower points as well. That is a big sector and they need to be there.



If MS want to suck people into their online schemes - they have to get them onto win 8. (Or win 8.5 - whatever this blue thing is going to be called ).


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07 Mar 2013   #232
Gary

Win 10 Pro 64
 
 

I could have gotten Windows 8 Pro for $39.00. I would not pay 39 cents for it. It is just plain fugly. If I had a tablet I may would have tried it but I don't and never will. Windows 7 suits me just fine, I will use it for the duration of my time on this planet.
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08 Mar 2013   #233
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

Microsoft needs to rethink it's business model. For many years in its dominant position it could dictate to its customers based upon Microsoft's business model. Microsoft is now realizing the world has changed and its customers are starting to have more choices in computing. In order for Microsoft to stay competitive it must realize that it needs to listen to its customers and develop products that the public wants. Unfortunately I don't think Microsoft's current management is capable of this.

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Microsoft vs. the world: The punches keep coming

On top of fines and taxes, Microsoft got bad news on Windows RT, Windows 8, and Office 2013

Demand for Windows 8 is also failing to meet expectations, and Redmond this week "did something it's historically been loath to do: discount prices for the copies of Windows it sells to computer makers," notes Gregg Keizer of Computerworld. Allan Krans, an analyst with Technology Business Research, said Microsoft has "always been insistent on maintaining that pricing, but a discount makes sense, given the holiday season, the back-and-forth with the OEMs, and the slow start to the Surface." Though it's significant Microsoft has been able to sustain its OEM prices this long, Krans added: "But this is a reflection of the state of the computer market, which has been difficult for both OEMs and Microsoft. They have to get out in front of this shift."
http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft...-coming-214098
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08 Mar 2013   #234
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 
If we aren't buying it, you're in trouble

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
Could the reason that it is not selling be that the computing public (not Geeks) don't like change? They are so used to XP at home and work are only now moving to Windows 7 at the corporate level. After the time between XP and Vista and the fix of 7 Windows 8 with the shocking Metro seems too soon. Also the regualr public who email, surf Pintrest, Facebook et al are finding an ipad fits the bill perfectly. I have plenty of friends who ask me what should I buy. I tell them look for a nice laptop and get Windows 7 if you don't like 8. Best Buy or whoever sell them an ipad as it suits exactly what they want. The can sit on the couch and surf. They don't care that they are walled in to Crapple. To them it is a computer for surfing.
You actually answered your own question when you said... "I tell them look for a nice laptop and get Windows 7"

In my view it is the "geeks" who propel technology forward. That is, if the geek community isn't buying it, it probably won't sell. Look at it this way, we all have people who look to us for advice. We give that advice, and it influences other's buying decisions, and word spreads.

It is in this context that's killing Microsoft here.... the "geek" community simply isn't impressed with Windows 8, and are thus telling their friends to stay away from it. And people are listening.

It also didn't help that even Microsoft was somewhat less enthusiastic themselves. Look at how quietly the OS was released.

Anyway I plan on buying a tablet next week but it darn sure won't be a Win 8 tablet. And this is coming from a person who traditionally bought a Windows phone. I now have a Samsung Galaxy S3, and will be getting the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet.

At any rate, if the geek community isn't buying your tech, you're in trouble.

My two cents.
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08 Mar 2013   #235
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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At any rate, if the geek community isn't buying your tech, you're in trouble.

Let's hope they understand that in Redmond.
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08 Mar 2013   #236
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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At any rate, if the geek community isn't buying your tech, you're in trouble.

Let's hope they understand that in Redmond.
Hope? How about pray?
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08 Mar 2013   #237
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

That never hurts.
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08 Mar 2013   #238
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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At any rate, if the geek community isn't buying your tech, you're in trouble.

Let's hope they understand that in Redmond.
Hope? How about pray?
I guess we'll find out when "Blue" is released?
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09 Mar 2013   #239
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I also wonder who did the market research. Who influenced the out come of that research.

Wanting to get a large chunk of a large market like tablets, phones, ect. is understandable to most everything that walks upright.
I don't know of anybody that knocking Microsoft for trying to get a big share of the new market.
This new market of tablets and such is not controlled by Microsoft's huge market share like it controls the home and business use of PC's and laptop operating systems.

Microsoft is so use to being the only big player in the market they don't know what to do in a new market where there are several big players and they have to compete against all of them.
The old way of doing business; do it my way or hit the highway is not going to work.

Many years ago Henry Ford made a statement:

“People can have the Model T in any color – so long as it’s black.”
Henry Ford

That type of business attitude worked then but will not work today. People want and demand choices.

I'm thinking that most people who don't want Windows 8 is because it doesn't meet their wants and needs for a operating system. It's not their lack of ability or desire to learn something new. They surly don't want Windows 8 shoved down their throats. They want and demand choices.
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09 Mar 2013   #240
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
It is not because they don't like change. That is on old wives tale, which is being wheeled out as an excuse for dismal sales by a small number of win8 fans.

It is because they do not like having a mobile phone interface thrust at them.
They don't mind it on a phone - they don't want it on a proper machine. It is ok to include it as an option, not as default.

SI you're right on track. I bought XP, I bought Vista, I bought W7, and I would've bought W8 if they had produced an excellent product.

But instead they handed us a "mobile phone interface" with no options, just take it or leave it.
So I left it.

If I go to a nice restaurant for a steak and the only thing on the menu is boiled chicken, I figure I'm in the wrong restaurant; I'm gonna get up and walk out.

If MS double's down with Windows Blue and give us more of the same, then Microsoft is even dumber than I thought they were.
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