| Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8 |
09 Mar 2013
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#241 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
That type of attitude ... 
Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear Many years ago Henry Ford made a statement: “People can have the Model T in any color – so long as it’s black.”
― Henry Ford
That type of business attitude worked then but will not work today. People want and demand choices. That type of attitude caused Ford to lose its #1 position to another company (GM?). 
Quote: Originally Posted by Dallas 7 If MS double's down with Windows Blue and give us more of the same, then Microsoft is even dumber than I thought they were. "We're not wrong! The World is wrong!"
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09 Mar 2013
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#242 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
Technology moves forward... I think some of you are being a bit over dramatic and not fully understanding advancement in technology. The point is to move the ball forward, not stay suck in the past. As I've said plenty of times, we now live in a mobile society where mobile computing is the way to go; that means being able to seamlessly sync to, and gather info from, our desktops using our mobile devices like tablets and smartphones.
This is what Microsoft is attempting to bring about with Windows 8, and I really don't expect Microsoft to drop this approach. In fact, I hope they don't.
And since Microsoft is one of the biggest players in operating systems, they would be stupid not to embrace mobile computing - that is, not create an OS that is multiplatform with the ability to seamlessly integrate with mobile devices.
The problem, the way I see it, is they simply didn't get it right this go around for desktop users. That said, don't expect them to abandon ship, in my opinion, that would be stupid; they just need to fix some things here and there. Perhaps "Blue" is the answer?
I will say the days of the dedicated "desktop OS" is over as we know it. That was yesterday, this is today.
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09 Mar 2013
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#243 | | |
Two things MS need to address:
1. They have allegedly 1.5-2bn existing users. Those are the people who are supposed to be buying most of the 300+m new pc's over the next 12 mths.
It doesn't seem to be happening at that rate.
2. Pricing.
Mainly the 8 machines are far too expensive. People might pay a premium for Apple - we now have a good indication they will not pay a premium for 8 stuff.
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09 Mar 2013
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#244 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |

Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 I think some of you are being a bit over dramatic and not fully understanding advancement in technology. The point is to move the ball forward, not stay suck in the past. As I've said plenty of times, we now live in a mobile society where mobile computing is the way to go; that means being able to seamlessly sync to, and gather info from, our desktops using our mobile devices like tablets and smartphones.
This is what Microsoft is attempting to bring about with Windows 8, and I really don't expect Microsoft to drop this approach. In fact, I hope they don't.
And since Microsoft is one of the biggest players in operating systems, they would be stupid not to embrace mobile computing - that is, not create an OS that is multiplatform with the ability to seamlessly integrate with mobile devices.
The problem, the way I see it, is they simply didn't get it right this go around for desktop users. That said, don't expect them to abandon ship, in my opinion, that would be stupid; they just need to fix some things here and there. Perhaps "Blue" is the answer?
I will say the days of the dedicated "desktop OS" is over as we know it. That was yesterday, this is today.
My two cents. I have no problem with moving forward as long as I don't have to take several steps back for each one forward. Reduced functionality is not a step forward. Neither is change for change's sake (i.e. change that brings no actual improvement, something M$ has been guilty of for some time). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
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09 Mar 2013
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#246 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Comparing Windows 8 to Vista is not a good comparison. Vista was a fine system that was made for the PC - not a teenie playmobile station. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
09 Mar 2013
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#247 | | |
I think he meant the comparison in the sense it is not popular.
The journalist is funny. He tries to turn evrything around - amusing - I expect he does that with all his posts. I might have a look at some of his other blogs if I get the time.
It is not looking good. Acer, Fujitsu, and now Samsung have all said 8 itself is a problem.
We knew that before it was released - and so did the oem's I am pretty sure. MS didn't seem to get it. | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
09 Mar 2013
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#248 | | |
Not clear what is going on with Surface Pro. 8 adorers are convinced it selling like hot cakes and soon the whole world will see the light.
MS are drip releasing it - so we don't know what the sales are.
It is possible Surface Pro may do quite well.
There are very particular reasons for that which do not apply to the rest of the market. | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
09 Mar 2013
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#249 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Los Angeles, CA, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 I will say the days of the dedicated "desktop OS" is over as we know it. That was yesterday, this is today. For consumption, perhaps; but for production (which fuels the consumption that smartphones/tablets excel at) and "specialized" consumption such as heavy-duty gaming, desktops (and laptops to a smaller extent) can do things that would be unreasonably difficult, if not outright impossible, to do on smartphones and tablets. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number N/A (custom-built) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disabled) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz Graphics Card Nvidia EVGA GeForce 560 Ti 448 Cores Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio (motherboard integrated) Monitor(s) Displays NEC Multisync EX231W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz via DVI-D Keyboard Steelseries 6Gv2 Mouse Steelseries Sensei RAW Glossy, Logitech M500 PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Antec 300 Cooling Air-cooling Hard Drives 2x Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Caviar Black Internal HDD // 1x WD 500GB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 1x WD 1TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 2x WD 2TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD Internet Speed DSL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Chromium, IE9 |
09 Mar 2013
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#250 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
I think the bottom line here is simple: as of 2013 and probably for the next couple of years, there are two distinct markets; the traditional desktop market and the portable device market. Windows 8 should have been developed with two separate user interfaces - one or each market. Microsoft failed to do that and traditional desktop users are being forced to use third party apps and/or considerable tweaking to make Windows 8 more desktop friendly.
This is not to say that Windows 8 is a bad operating system. Just that Microsoft's marketing strategy is akin to flipping the finger at desktop users. IMHO. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 AM. | |