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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

09 Mar 2013   #251
SIW2

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Just that Microsoft's marketing strategy is akin to flipping the finger at desktop users.
Curious to say the least.

They might be doing something about it with Blue.

They have a massive user base. Trick is to get them behind you. They are useful - not just for selling the new o/s or the new laptop - but also - they may then get a win tablet/phone.

The positioning is odd too.

Why they thought they could take on the ipad with the surface rt is anybody's guess. Even if the 10 in tablets were selling well in general - surface rt would have had a hard time making an impression like that.


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09 Mar 2013   #252
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I will say the days of the dedicated "desktop OS" is over as we know it. That was yesterday, this is today.
For consumption, perhaps; but for production (which fuels the consumption that smartphones/tablets excel at) and "specialized" consumption such as heavy-duty gaming, desktops (and laptops to a smaller extent) can do things that would be unreasonably difficult, if not outright impossible, to do on smartphones and tablets.
I wrote programs for my first computer in 1958 and have dealt with computers ever since. And I think they will still be around in 2058 - and I mean computers, not playmobile toys for the kids.
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10 Mar 2013   #253
Layback Bear

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Like I posted in # 239.
I also wonder who did the market research. Who influenced the out come of that research.

Some how Microsoft thinks they have to throw away a billion plus loyal customers away to get into the mobile toy business.
NO NO Microsoft you can do both markets without destroying one market to joint the other market.
Two markets; two products. Simple.

That thought pattern just discombobulates my 3 working brain cells.
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10 Mar 2013   #254
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

If M$ wants a lightweight OS that fits all, why not a modular one? Users can install only the features and UI they want and/or need. No need to strip features some users have come to depend on.
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10 Mar 2013   #255
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Wheels are so yesterday

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
I will say the days of the dedicated "desktop OS" is over as we know it. That was yesterday, this is today.
Good luck creating a complex spreadsheet or database on your mobile phone, whilst adhering to your boss' unrealistic deadlines.

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I have no problem with moving forward as long as I don't have to take several steps back for each one forward. Reduced functionality is not a step forward. Neither is change for change's sake (i.e. change that brings no actual improvement, something M$ has been guilty of for some time).
Agreed.

Apart from about a half a dozen quibbles, W7 was an improvement on XP (and IMO, it was a big improvement on Vista).

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We knew that before it was released - and so did the oem's I am pretty sure. MS didn't seem to get it.
I don't know why they bought all of those licences.

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This is not to say that Windows 8 is a bad operating system. Just that Microsoft's marketing strategy is akin to flipping the finger at desktop users. IMHO.
"What have you 1 billion+ users done for us lately?"
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10 Mar 2013   #256
marsmimar

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Stardock's Start8 ($4.99) and Classic Shell have been suggested numerous times to give Windows 8 a Windows 7 look, feel, and functionality. These programs also allow the user to switch between the two user interfaces at will. The fact that these third party programs exist tells me that the Microsoft developers could have incorporated the same features into Windows 8 if they wanted to. (Unless, of course, someone would like to argue that the Microsoft developers aren't as smart as the Stardock or Classic Shell developers. )

The fact that Microsoft chose to NOT include these features speaks volumes about their current feelings towards desktop users.
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10 Mar 2013   #257
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Frustration

It must really be frustrating with MS pushing in one direction and the masses pushing in another.
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10 Mar 2013   #258
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

"What have you 1 billion+ users done for us lately?"


Well us billion + also buy those mobile toys and use them where and how they were designed.
Us billion + also by Windows Word, Office and other Windows programs to use where they were designed to be used. On a useable Desktop.
Just because one wants a useable and productive desktop or laptop doesn't mean they don't buy the mobile devices and use them as mobile devices. These are people or companies that are part of both markets. What company would stop using a desktop just to add a tablet to their inventory of equipment?
They will use both to meet the needs or desires of the company.
If Microsoft develops a mobile operating system that is not compatible to sync with Windows 7 or a usable and productive Windows 8 that is their fault not the customers fault.
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10 Mar 2013   #259
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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(Unless, of course, someone would like to argue that the Microsoft developers aren't as smart as the Stardock or Classic Shell developers. )
If we're going to call anyone from MS an idiot we should be directing that to MS's management, the guys who dictate what MS's developers code up. The MS developers could possibly be the best programmers in the world, but they're only going to be able to create what their bosses want out of them.
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10 Mar 2013   #260
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

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(Unless, of course, someone would like to argue that the Microsoft developers aren't as smart as the Stardock or Classic Shell developers. )
If we're going to call anyone from MS an idiot we should be directing that to MS's management, the guys who dictate what MS's developers code up. The MS developers could possibly be the best programmers in the world, but they're only going to be able to create what their bosses want out of them.
Exactly King Arthur. People sitting in the board room made the call. Their programmers and marketing people did what they were told to do.
Another one of Microsoft's take it or hit the road directed at their employees. Microsoft needs a few
IBM members in the board room. It wouldn't take long to straighten this mess out after watching customers turn their backs on Windows 8.
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