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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

11 Mar 2013   #291
SIW2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Just checked - there are about 40 at stardock. That kind of sudden earnings will be big for them.

It is not just stardock - there are loads of others - stardock might be the biggest seller.


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11 Mar 2013   #292
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
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When MS found out that people were using a Registry hack to restore the Start Menu (in W8 DP) they DELIBERATELY stripped the code out of the subsequent versions.
Is this really correct. If so MS need a management consultant to tell them the perils of "Group Think".

So is it impossible to retrofit a Start menu now for W8?
I was referring to the change between W8DP and W8CP.

I believe new Registry hacks have been posted.

There are at least a half a dozen Start Menu replacements available (free to use or otherwise).
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11 Mar 2013   #293
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Do you think M$ would even care?
If they are being dragged into court, e.g. in the EU, they will have to care.
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11 Mar 2013   #294
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Do you think M$ would even care?
If they are being dragged into court, e.g. in the EU, they will have to care.
Dragged into court for what? Restoring their own code to their own product? Even if they did get fined, it would be a drop in the bucket to a monster like M$. What do you suppose would happen if the EU hassled M$ enough to make M$ decide that EU countries are no longer worth the hassle and refuse to license their products there anymore?
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11 Mar 2013   #295
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

That would cut their revenue in half.
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11 Mar 2013   #296
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

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Do you think M$ would even care?
If they are being dragged into court, e.g. in the EU, they will have to care.
Dragged into court for what? Restoring their own code to their own product? Even if they did get fined, it would be a drop in the bucket to a monster like M$. What do you suppose would happen if the EU hassled M$ enough to make M$ decide that EU countries are no longer worth the hassle and refuse to license their products there anymore?


If M$ keeps screwing over their customer base like they did with W8, theres going to be fewer and fewer people who care.
Who knows, if the right company was to jump into the fray at the right time and convince people that they care more about their customers than M$ does, M$ might find themselves in trouble.
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11 Mar 2013   #297
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The EU is actually now up in arms over MS failing to live upto their 2009 promise of keeping a browser options list in 7 for the EU distributions. The EU wants to level fines against MS for that one! EU fines Microsoft $US732m over browser ballot debacle - new york times, opera software, Microsoft, european union, european commission, Windows, legal, software, operating systems - Computerworld

It wouldn't be the first time they have tried to slam dunk MS however for any grievances with the software giant. EU hands down record $1.35 billion fine against Microsoft

Back in the late 90s they were fined a $1mil a day for not allowing competitors to offer browsers in Windows with MS having made sure IE was default. For a giant like MS however that is only a drop in the bucket based on their revenues!

And before I forget while keeping on the main topic, Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

Certainly the need to find a 3rd party app like Classic Shell for something people already expect to find in each version is the nasty idea someone at MS had for seeing 8 desktops look the same as the new tablet series while the RT gui was designed for tablet. The writer brings up a reference regarding "usability" when making the comparisons between the types of users. Experts, willing adopters(or willing to learn), and then the mainstream 90% novice users.
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11 Mar 2013   #298
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

There are more like 3 dozen start menus available.

No registry hacks - MS removed some of the code. Nikolay has great way to alleviate much of the suffering from the disease.

He puts back the code with a couple of very small .dll files. No services , no additional executables running.

His is only 3 bucks for 2 pc license.

StartIsBack - real start menu in Windows 8



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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
When MS found out that people were using a Registry hack to restore the Start Menu (in W8 DP) they DELIBERATELY stripped the code out of the subsequent versions.
Is this really correct. If so MS need a management consultant to tell them the perils of "Group Think".

So is it impossible to retrofit a Start menu now for W8?
I was referring to the change between W8DP and W8CP.

I believe new Registry hacks have been posted.

There are at least a half a dozen Start Menu replacements available (free to use or otherwise).
My System SpecsSystem Spec
11 Mar 2013   #299
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I think with Windows 8, M$ prepaired the terrain for people starting to look elsewhere. More and more public bodies in Europe migrate to Linux and that trend will only accelerate. I myself explored a few Linux distros - and guess what - some are quite good and would be very suitable for the average user. Download this PDF from here and you will see.
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11 Mar 2013   #300
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Am having a go at making batch file to make your own 7sp2 install media.

You will neeed an install dvd - and you need to d/l the updates ( I will explain where from and which ones - it is pretty easy .

Just run the batch as admin and it does the job for you. It takes a while putting the updates in - then it will make the iso. You can go away for lunch and let is do it's thing.
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