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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

29 Mar 2013   #461
x BlueRobot

 

I don't see why it's so difficult to make two versions of the same operating system?

I doubt the mass market will care about synchronization across multiple devices. I don't know anyone my age group who owns a Windows phone, so that kinda breaks this sync doesn't it?

The mass market is mostly concerned with, how fast is my Internet and how long will it get me to get on Twitter/Facebook? Or, order some new clothes online and check my e-mails.


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29 Mar 2013   #462
whs
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
I don't see why it's so difficult to make two versions of the same operating system?

I doubt the mass market will care about synchronization across multiple devices. I don't know anyone my age group who owns a Windows phone, so that kinda breaks this sync doesn't it?

The mass market is mostly concerned with, how fast is my Internet and how long will it get me to get on Twitter/Facebook? Or, order some new clothes online and check my e-mails.
Absolutely right. The installer could generate a tablet UI when it senses a touch enabled screen and a traditional UI when no touch is present. They do that e.g. for disks. When they sense a zero rotation disk (SSD), they do the alignment, switch defrag off, etc.

The layman argument against it is double maintenance. But that is not such a big problem. Operating systems are structured in layers and the UI is the highest layer. The double maintenance would only apply to that layer. And that would be a small price to pay to make billions of PC users happy.

Here is the example of Android (which I happen to have handy) that shows an operating system layering and the maintenance of those different layers is usually done by different teams.


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29 Mar 2013   #463
x BlueRobot

 

Great post there

From Microsoft's perspective, surely isn't it more logical to satisfy both markets? The niche market of enthusiasts and the mass market of businesses and home users.

Everyone is happy and satisfied with your product and will continue to use it.
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29 Mar 2013   #464
whs
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Yeah right, if MS only wanted. But they want to push their tablet UI and all the consequences down our throat. I am NOT going to participate in this game. There are plenty of other options.

Microsoft is not going to get another penny from me until they come to their senses and deliver an Operating System that is suitable for the PC.
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29 Mar 2013   #465
Indianatone

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Yeah right, if MS only wanted. But they want to push their tablet UI and all the consequences down our throat. I am NOT going to participate in this game. There are plenty of other options.
I triead Linux Mint Mate and like it, An Experiment with Windows 7 64 & Linux Mint 64.
thanks to your leadership and tutorials. As we speak I am creating a 125GB partition on a 1.5TB drive to install Mint directly on the hard drive. I shall then set it up and tweak away.
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29 Mar 2013   #466
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I am glad my little tutorials help and are useful. Although I have used Linux off and on since a few years (mainly Ubuntu and Fedora), I am not a real Linux expert. But with Mint Mate, things are pretty simple. And if I don't know something, I ask at the Linux forums. These guys are also very helpful.
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29 Mar 2013   #467
marsmimar

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
From Microsoft's perspective, surely isn't it more logical to satisfy both markets? The niche market of enthusiasts and the mass market of businesses and home users.

Everyone is happy and satisfied with your product and will continue to use it.
Therein lies the problem, Harry. Microsoft decided (for whatever the reason) that starting with Windows 8 the traditional desktop experience would no longer be a priority. Apparently MS believes that we traditional PC users who sit at a desk at home or at work and who use a traditional desktop or laptop PC (without a touch screen) are a dying breed.

Maybe MS knows something that I don't know. Maybe by the time Windows 7 reaches end-of-support all Windows users will have to have a chip implanted that will make even touch screens obsolete. All computing will be 100% mind control in the cloud or who knows where. But in the meantime, it makes no marketing sense to me either why MS would alienate so many of its traditional customers.

As I said in another post, when I see the current crop of Microsoft ads for Windows 8 (the ads with angry dancing school girls, a 5 year old drawing pictures that Mom plasters all over the kitchen, and so-called business people using their Surface Pros while break dancing on a conference table), I find it very difficult to take Windows 8 seriously.
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29 Mar 2013   #468
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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As I said in another post, when I see the current crop of Microsoft ads for Windows 8 (the ads with dancing school girls, a 5 year old drawing pictures that Mom plasters all over the kitchen, and so-called business people using their Surface Pros while break dancing on a conference table), I find it very difficult to take Windows 8 seriously
That all goes with the playmobile UI of Windows 8. I guess they want to attract the kindergarden kids as customers. Not very serious business behavior. I think they are doomed unless they come to their senses.
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29 Mar 2013   #469
Indianatone

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I am glad my little tutorials help and are useful. Although I have used Linux off and on since a few years (mainly Ubuntu and Fedora), I am not a real Linux expert. But with Mint Mate, things are pretty simple. And if I don't know something, I ask at the Linux forums. These guys are also very helpful.
The info I needed came right up in the search bar in Mint I was impressed. With the success of Windows 7 who would have though we are heading this way. Other OS vendors will be laughing all the way to the bank if M$ continues this path. I am no Linux expert either but it is intuitive, something 8 is not on the desktop. It has usability.
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29 Mar 2013   #470
x BlueRobot

 

Microsoft will need to learn the hard way then, it's obvious Windows 8 isn't selling, and I've only seen one OEM advert with Windows 8 being promoted (HP maybe?), so they aren't in hurry to sell Windows 8 because they know it not going to sell.

Once the support ends for Windows 7, then I'm going to switch to Linux, unless they produce another Windows desktop operating system.

Guess what? The OEM advert had a child using the hybrid tablet/laptop too!
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