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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

30 Mar 2013   #511
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

There is always React OS
ReactOS Project
Just need a billionaire to pump some cash into it and then we have a choice.

Download for Virtual Machines:
http://www.reactos.org/download


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30 Mar 2013   #512
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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30 Mar 2013   #513
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
I now quad boot with 3 versions of Windows 7 (don't ask I am a Geek) and Linux Mint Mate 14. I used Easy BCD and added the Linux auto find : Entry #4
Name: Linux Mint x64
BCD ID: {978289f0-cddf-11e1-8c60-e1dec16559df}
Drive: N:\
Bootloader Path: \NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr
Works a treat, no need to screw up my Windows 7 bootloaders with the other three OS's. I have my monitor calibrated for correct greys and colours on 7 but I am now on a mission to copy that information from Windows to Linux but that is not happening yet. Wish Mint had a calibration Utility like 7 does, would be very handy. Still I only have to 2020 to get it sorted and by then we'll be on Mint 18 or so M$ need to wake up and smell something other than Windows 8 as this has desktop culling has got me looking to a new OS for the future.
Pardon my curiosity, but are you booting into Bootmgr (Windows Boot Manager) and then chainloading into (I assume) GRUB which then loads Linux? I've been looking at dual booting Windows 7 Pro and Linux Mint 14 KDE on my laptop while keeping Windows as the "master" of the computer.
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30 Mar 2013   #514
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

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30 Mar 2013   #515
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

King Arthur,

did you consider using VMware Player for a virtual Mint partition. That's how I run my Mint and it is so much more convenient and completely trouble free.

Here I made a little tutorial with Zorin as example:

VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin

Note: The terminal commands for the VMware tools in Mint are different. Let me know if you need help with those.
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30 Mar 2013   #516
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I did it by hand last time. Easybcd is probably simpler for most folks.

If you want windows and linux on a usb stick - you may need to do it by hand like I did.
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30 Mar 2013   #517
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Initially I had thought that tutorial was the usual GRUB2 chainloading into Bootmgr to dualboot Windows 7 and Linux, but it appears that I was wrong now that I've taken a more in-depth look! Certain parts of the tutorial elude me as to their significance, like deleting the 100MB System Reserved partition, but rather than posting about them here I'll create a new topic in the appropriate subforum once I've read the tutorial in full and I feel I still need some answers. Thanks for the link!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
King Arthur,

did you consider using VMware Player for a virtual Mint partition. That's how I run my Mint and it is so much more convenient and completely trouble free.

Here I made a little tutorial with Zorin as example:

VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin

Note: The terminal commands for the VMware tools in Mint are different. Let me know if you need help with those.
I've already tried Linux Mint 14 KDE (as well as a number of other distros) in a VirtualBox VM, which is why I'm confident in dualbooting my laptop with Windows 7 + Linux Mint 14 KDE. I just wanted to know how easy it is in practice to have Windows and Bootmgr be the "master" of the system and chainloading into GRUB as appropriate. As I still prefer Windows 7 and XP by far compared to Linux, having Windows as the master of the system just feels more reassuring; I realize the practical benefits of such a setup are nil otherwise.

Some preliminary research I've done on the subject seems to indicate that a Bootmgr->GRUB setup is as simple as taking a dump of the GRUB MBR binary code from the MBR (after having installed Linux and GRUB first), saving that dump into a file located in a place accessible to Bootmgr (ie: an NTFS partition like C:\), and then reinstalling Bootmgr through a Windows 7 CD and configuring Bootmgr as appropriate.
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30 Mar 2013   #518
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Looks like you know what needs to be done. I only prefer the VMware route because then I can run both systems side by side. I find that convenient.

I run my VMware installed system (a few Linux and Windows 8) from an external SSD. That way I can run those systems from any of my PCs. That is another convenience
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30 Mar 2013   #519
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Iforgot View Post
......This could have been Win8.....
Win8 with a duel user interface. "Start" and/or "the GUI formally known as Metro"
Now just think of that scenario.
A user could work as normal and as M$ tablets etc turn up, they could switch between the two a lot easier.
Whichever device takes a better hold, M$ would have it covered.
And both being M$, the user could use the GUI that best suits the application,
And both being M$. it should have better compatibility between the 2 devices.

That definitely would've been the intelligent solution.
Instead, Microsoft is arrogantly trying to dictate the market with no regard for the preference of their customer base.
It would've been so easy for them to have done like you suggested and included an optional desktop interface into W8. The interfaces would've been compatible with each other, and most importantly it would've provided their customer base with intelligent, user friendly options.

Killing the desktop may just backfire in their face and kill the loyalty of their customer base instead.
OEMs should start offering something like Linux as an optional OS. Who knows, maybe it would start catching on.
Apple should start courting the desktop crowd if they're smart.
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30 Mar 2013   #520
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Re: Tablets
If I ran a business and needed correspondence to get out, I like to see how efficiently staff I pay for could do it on a tablet.
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