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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8


05 Apr 2013   #641

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sarris View Post
Well... as a 56 YO architect who has been into computing since the Commador and using AutoCAD since it's inception (we used digitizers prior to mice) I can tell you that it's tough to draw with your finger on a touch screen.

I ran W8 on a VM for about 3 months. My issue is that each new operating system delivers more live content (read ads) and becomes less of a work station, and more of a social/entertainment center.

What I want in an operating system (besides making the hardware run) is boot me to a black screen, provide a taskbar with start button, and I can take it from there. Keep your UAC, I don't need a nanny, and I damn sure don't need a product, that I have purchased, telling me what I can or cannot do with it.

I want an operating system for professionals, and the ignorant masses can have the gee-gaw.

I hope everyone realizes that the grand plan is to give everyone a dumb terminal and make all computing in the cloud. That way, "they" control all the content, "they" control customizations, "they" control your personal data, AND "they" will charge you monthly for what you used to own outright.

It's already begun.......
Isn't that the way of capitalism? If they could find a way to charge us for breathing air they would.

Anyway you make some good points in your post, and ones I totally can agree with.

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05 Apr 2013   #642

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sarris View Post
...Keep your UAC, I don't need a nanny...
While I will agree UAC is as annoying as an itch you can't reach, it's not a nanny. It's there to prevent PUPs from trying to start up without your knowledge. No matter how careful you may be, malware can sneak onto a computer through a legitimate connection and start up without your knowledge. UAC will alert you to when that happens. It's not that big of a deal to click "Yes" when starting up a program. I have mine set for full protection.
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05 Apr 2013   #643

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I've turned my UAC completely off actually. I really don't mind a "nanny" per se as I used WinPatrol for years before UAC was around. Just got..... tired of it I guess. I go to some pretty dodgy corners of the net too, lol. But to each their own, which brings me to what I was coming here to say.

The feeling of ...... betrayal is the only word coming to mind ... I get from Win8/Blue and Microsoft in general. I've always been a real champion of MS, hey if not for them I and most people I think wouldn't know much about these wonderful machines we use and love. Microsoft brought computing to the masses and I will be forever grateful for that. I feel anymore though that I'm nothing but a wallet to them and a dumb one at that. I resent that.I understand capitalism as well as a non economist does and can't understand why a major company like MS would want to alienate such a large segment of their base. In my business, which is at LEAST as competitive as any other if not more, if a new product does not sell or is offensive or just plain not moving its gone! Theres no point in carrying something around that nobody wants and won't sell. The landfill in Hillsborough county Florida is FULL of stuff that won't move. Sometimes you just have to swallow your pride a little and face reality no matter the loss involved, NOT double down on a losing hand.

I too have started nosing around the various Linux distros and if MS continues to ignore me as a consumer ( a LONG time consumer at that), I'll be throwing my hat in that ring. I feel like I'm not important to them anymore, as much as I use and tout their product.
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05 Apr 2013   #644

Win7 Home Premium x64, Linux Mint 14
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by indianacarnie View Post
I feel anymore though that I'm nothing but a wallet to them and a dumb one at that. I resent that.I understand capitalism as well as a non economist does and can't understand why a major company like MS would want to alienate such a large segment of their base.
Couldn't agree more with that and as far as I'm concerned MS have spent the last couple of years (at least) sitting in a giant bubble with fruit company envy. Sure they (MS) have their so called focus groups probably stuffed full of employees who give a resounding thumbs up to anything they're introduced to - they do have mortgages to pay at the end of the day.

As soon as MS disabled the classic UI it became obvious that the interest was in cloud computing and paid for downloaded apps. That's where they see their future profits and they are not alone in their thinking as a well known software house is also going down that road.

In a perfect world W8 should have been evolutionary with user choice at install time. What they have managed to do is alienate their huge existing user base and a fair number of media contributors. Sure you can get W8 to look like Windows 7 but what's the point? The only good thing is most folks round here have a good working Windows 7 rig.
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05 Apr 2013   #645

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Just had a thought. Can you think of a mess worse that someone posting; I have a BSOD and I'm using Windows 8 on a touch tablet. How would you guide someone who just pokes the screen all their life.
That's what I call the Bic syndrome.
When it quiets working throw it away like a Bic lighter and get another one.
I have always wondered what happens when the screen get all scratched. Will it work?
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05 Apr 2013   #646

Windows 7 x64 and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Just had a thought. Can you think of a mess worse that someone posting; I have a BSOD and I'm using Windows 8 on a touch tablet. How would you guide someone who just pokes the screen all their life.
That's what I call the Bic syndrome.
When it quiets working throw it away like a Bic lighter and get another one.
I have always wondered what happens when the screen get all scratched. Will it work?
Most of these touch screens are capacitance touch. A lot of TV's and monitors use a similar kind of system to control there functions hidden in the bezel. Fine in theory but a PIA.. The simple answer is the device locks up. Some of the CPU cycles are spent scanning the screen / touch pad for contact. If the screen gets worn it won't work or worse the unit won't work (like TV,s DVD players etc) when the keyboard is shorted you are pressing 2 or more functions at once and the system halts. Your laptop can break because you pressed it too hard. Nuff said.
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06 Apr 2013   #647

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by indianacarnie View Post

......The feeling of ...... betrayal is the only word coming to mind ... I get from Win8/Blue and Microsoft in general. I've always been a real champion of MS, hey if not for them I and most people I think wouldn't know much about these wonderful machines we use and love. Microsoft brought computing to the masses and I will be forever grateful for that. I feel anymore though that I'm nothing but a wallet to them and a dumb one at that. I resent that.I understand capitalism as well as a non economist does and can't understand why a major company like MS would want to alienate such a large segment of their base. In my business, which is at LEAST as competitive as any other if not more, if a new product does not sell or is offensive or just plain not moving its gone! Theres no point in carrying something around that nobody wants and won't sell. The landfill in Hillsborough county Florida is FULL of stuff that won't move. Sometimes you just have to swallow your pride a little and face reality no matter the loss involved, NOT double down on a losing hand.

I too have started nosing around the various Linux distros and if MS continues to ignore me as a consumer ( a LONG time consumer at that), I'll be throwing my hat in that ring. I feel like I'm not important to them anymore, as much as I use and tout their product.


I couldn't agree more Indianacarnie. I was never one of the Microsoft haters, but Microsoft is now alienating itself from it's most loyal customer base and acting like they don't even care.

They've willingly donned a pair of blinders so they can only see straight ahead.
When the public turned up their nose at a lousy product, Microsoft ignored the truth, ignorantly blamed it on the OEMs, and like you said; proceeded to "double down on a losing hand".
And these guys are supposed to be smart??
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06 Apr 2013   #648

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dallas 7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by indianacarnie View Post

......The feeling of ...... betrayal is the only word coming to mind ... I get from Win8/Blue and Microsoft in general. I've always been a real champion of MS, hey if not for them I and most people I think wouldn't know much about these wonderful machines we use and love. Microsoft brought computing to the masses and I will be forever grateful for that. I feel anymore though that I'm nothing but a wallet to them and a dumb one at that. I resent that.I understand capitalism as well as a non economist does and can't understand why a major company like MS would want to alienate such a large segment of their base. In my business, which is at LEAST as competitive as any other if not more, if a new product does not sell or is offensive or just plain not moving its gone! Theres no point in carrying something around that nobody wants and won't sell. The landfill in Hillsborough county Florida is FULL of stuff that won't move. Sometimes you just have to swallow your pride a little and face reality no matter the loss involved, NOT double down on a losing hand.

I too have started nosing around the various Linux distros and if MS continues to ignore me as a consumer ( a LONG time consumer at that), I'll be throwing my hat in that ring. I feel like I'm not important to them anymore, as much as I use and tout their product.


I couldn't agree more Indianacarnie. I was never one of the Microsoft haters, but Microsoft is now alienating itself from it's most loyal customer base and acting like they don't even care.
They don't.
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06 Apr 2013   #649

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
What an arrogant piece of work!
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06 Apr 2013   #650

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Just had a thought. Can you think of a mess worse that someone posting; I have a BSOD and I'm using Windows 8 on a touch tablet. How would you guide someone who just pokes the screen all their life.
That's what I call the Bic syndrome.
When it quiets working throw it away like a Bic lighter and get another one.
I have always wondered what happens when the screen get all scratched. Will it work?
Don't mention it
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