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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

10 Apr 2013   #741
Golden
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Not everyone would be able to access it mjf


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10 Apr 2013   #742
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10 Apr 2013   #743
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

We also get a lot of FUD about how much faster 8 is on the desktop. 7 is just as fast if you set it to Windows 2000 classic desktop and reduce the graphics subsystem overhead. This may or may not show depending on your system. On my old Athlon 754 system in Classic desktop mode it is perfectly usable, add aero and it goes into a s l o w e r mode. The same is true on my little Eee PC, so IMHO strip our aero and claim it is faster than 7 is a sham. On lower end or older hardware this is going to show up but on the average enthusiast desktop not at all. Simply put if you want 7 to be quicker turn off the eye candy and set it to hibernate.
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10 Apr 2013   #744
x BlueRobot

 

You could also get a SSD, and have a faster general performance.
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10 Apr 2013   #745
Lone Browncoat

2000Pro,XP SP3 x86..W7 on next build
 
 

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10 Apr 2013   #746
jimbo45

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Has anybody managed to get windows and linux ( including the live sessions ) to boot off the same usb?

I have got it working using syslinux, might see if I can chain it the other way starting with bootmgr.

That works for bootmgr>grub4dos., so I expect there is a way.

Bit complicated as I have a lot of different os I would like to boot from one usb.

Hi there
try Windows to Go (W8) and Linux from the same USB (install Bootmanager after installing the Windows to Go system. Partition the USB drive into two partitions (DISKPART commands).

You'll need the Enterprise version of W8 but you can download for free for 90 days.

I know this is W7 but by using the W8 windows to go it should give you a fully usable bootable W8 system even if the machine has no internal HDD's -- then add the Linux system as a DUAL BOOT just like you can do with a normal windows system. The entire boot process is managed from the USB drive.

For W7 with a bit of fiddling around with GRUB and creating and mounting a VHD you should be able to have a bootable W7 system -- and GRUB will allow a standard bootable Linux system too. NOTE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A W7 VIRTUAL MACHINE. Booting and mounting a VHD isn't the same as running a VM from VM software such as VMware / Vbox / HYPER-V.

If you protect the "C" drive for the Windows system on the external USB disk and add extra partitions you should be able to keep your system decently "non persistent" but to create a totally "Live" Windows system might be a bit tricky. Once you've got a bootable working Windows system it should be possible to work out what to do next.

The Bartpe type of system worked fine for Windows XP but it wasn't actually a "Real" XP system in the proper sense of the word.

Cheers
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10 Apr 2013   #747
Wenda

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit; Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (VM).
 
 

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10 Apr 2013   #748
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Yes, I have been using 8 in various iterations for a very long time.

Many of us have done so and do not like it.

Not just because the UI is not appropriate for what we do.

It is move backwards - a step back to the dark old days.

Dependent on a central server - watched and controlled,charges and subscriptions.

Some seem to encourage it. I don't know if they are actually "shills" or they just don't understand what is going on.





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That's fine. I'm not here to convince you. But some of the FUD I've been reading here is downright out in left field. If you're going to hate something have a valid reason, not just some slavish following to others fears and misunderstandings.

My two cents.
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10 Apr 2013   #749
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10 Apr 2013   #750
SIW2

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@Jimbo, thanks.

Sorry, wasn't very clear.

I am talking about the installers. I have the customised installation media for several windows versions and linux versions, and various winpe and linux repair iso's all on one usb stick.

I am able to run windows and Linux installs, and Windows repair installs and linux live cd sessions, and boot .iso .img files, etc from there also.

Trying to figure the best way to control the booting of all those things, and might look at making them efi bootable.

[ I know about 8 to go, it is not new - I was doing the same thing with 7 long before.]
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