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Windows 7: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

10 Apr 2013   #761
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
I have tried to love it but every time I use it it annoys the hell out of me.
I too was annoyed at first, and am from time to time.

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Removal of the start menu, stupid invisible charms, then they removed aero and made it look like it is an 8 bit computer with the huge puzzle tiles.
I added back the start menu with Start8 from Stardock. I have the laptop boot straight to desktop. I almost NEVER see the start screen, except for when I want to launch an app I forgot to pin to the Taskbar. It's often quicker to hit the start key, type the first few letters of the apps name and hit return. Then pin to taskbar. Charms menu, I never use it...because I don't use Metro apps. With my start button, I don't need to access shutdown from Charms.

I wish 8 was prettier than it is (aka, had some Aero to it). But I've adjusted to the blah nature of it.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
Look at the sales of PC's. Give me every excuse under the sun but friends acquaintances have told me they will not buy a PC with 8 and the MAC is too expensive so they either stay on XP or Vista. Stay with VISTA for crying out loud. I don't care any more, when asked I just mumble "go and look for yourself". It is not selling and if they M$ don't do something soon the OEM's will.
PC sales were dwindling anyway. People are buying tablets and smartphones instead. Most people who complain that they won't use Windows 8 have probably not really used it whatsoever to form that opinion. They just based it on what other people said. I don't really think Windows 8 did anything detrimental to PC sales, but it sure didn't help.

With everything said above, I only use Windows 8 on my new laptop at work. I had to get some OS on it and went with 8. It boots super fast and runs really good. With my changes, it's barely noticeable that it's not 7. So, I"m happy with it. I will not spend my money to upgrade machines at home to 8 though, I simply don't see the point. My Windows 7 and Vista machines are just fine.


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10 Apr 2013   #762
PooMan UK

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Win 8 has to be a failure when there are people choosing win Vista over 8, there was a time when Vista was voted as one of the top 10 worst computer inventions ever and some retailers pulled it from their shelves within 11 months of it launching.
The majority of forums around the world are a hive of activity with a growing hate of win8, even over at the microsoft community there's a mutiny on the bounty I just hope that some of the big knobs at MS visit them so they can get a clear picture of exactly how bad and hated win 8 really is
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10 Apr 2013   #763
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

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The PC market sees its steepest decline ever in 2013, according to IDC



..."Despite some mild improvement in the economic environment and some new PC models offering Windows 8, PC shipments were down significantly across all regions compared to a year ago," IDC writes. "At this point, unfortunately, it seems clear that the Windows 8 launch not only failed to provide a positive boost to the PC market, but appears to have slowed the market."
The PC market sees its steepest decline ever in 2013, according to IDC | The Verge

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IDC: Windows 8 has actually made PCs ‘a less attractive alternative to tablets’

“At this point, unfortunately, it seems clear that the Windows 8 launch not only failed to provide a positive boost to the PC market, but appears to have slowed the market,” O’Donnell explains. “While some consumers appreciate the new form factors and touch capabilities of Windows 8, the radical changes to the UI, removal of the familiar Start button, and the costs associated with touch have made PCs a less attractive alternative to dedicated tablets and other competitive devices. Microsoft will have to make some very tough decisions moving forward if it wants to help reinvigorate the PC market.”
http://bgr.com/2013/04/10/windows-8-...alysis-429262/

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10 Apr 2013   #764
gregrocker

 

What has boggled me more than anything is how MS execs seem to lack real appreciation for the monumental achievement which is Win7. Even Vista was rescued by Win7 advancements rushed into it's SP1, nearly absolving the company of that debacle after many average Users don't remember what a showstopper it was on the hardware of that time.

To my mind Win7 is the greatest achievement in Tech history - perfect Desktop Experience, never hangs, featherlight and instantaneous with a good install on adequate hardware.

Absent any real and deep appreciation for it by MS leadership, Windows 7 advocacy falls to the Forums which bear its name and where it's truest potential has been fully realized since before it was even released.
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10 Apr 2013   #765
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Greg,
I don't know that I'd go as far as you in singing W7 praises but you certainly make some very good points. (I do like W7).
I tend to think the big software vendors see their finacial future in the "cloud" selling "apps" often developed by other people. My view - stick it up your jumper. I may buy a tablet geared to that model but it probably won't be MS and it better be cheap.
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10 Apr 2013   #766
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
There is a big difference.

Right now you have a personal computer. You store and manage your own files and folder. You make a conscious choice which software to buy/use - from just about anywhere. If you decide to use an online service of some kind - that is a conscious decision each time. You choose to upload pictures for Granny in Australia, etc.

MS have something very different planned.

A non personal computer.

They are leading people there gradually, without the users being aware. They do not put that in the commercials.

You might think Google/Apple etc are also doing undesirable things.

That is no excuse.
Yes I understand that. I also get why people are so upset over it. However, people don't seem to be so upset when posting information on facebook and other social networks.

All of a sudden Microsoft jumps in the fray and the world is coming to an end. Sorry but where was all this noise when Google and Apple were doing these things. Where were these people when I was screaming about Google's invasion into our privacy?

I don't like it at all either, but it is what it is. And we can scream all we want... Microsoft is going ahead. Why, because the vast majority of consumers want it. And all of the screaming and carrying on in the world won't stop us from using Microsoft products. Why, because we need them... we just don't want to accept it or believe it.

My two cents.
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10 Apr 2013   #767
PaulGo

Windows 10 (64 bit)
 
 

Perhaps because of poor Windows 8 sales a majority of consumers are rejecting Windows 8.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post

I don't like it at all either, but it is what it is. And we can scream all we want... Microsoft is going ahead. Why, because the vast majority of consumers want it. And all of the screaming and carrying on in the world won't stop us from using Microsoft products. Why, because we need them... we just don't want to accept it or believe it.

My two cents.
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10 Apr 2013   #768
Wenda

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit; Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (VM).
 
 

I don't reject Windows 8, far from it.

But, I DO reject out of hand the idea of the cloud, and subscription-based software permanently connected to the 'net.

Not gonna happen here.

I can, and will, go offline altogether if necessary, with my pay-once-use-forever software, and not have to worry about being dragged somewhere I do NOT want to go.

Wenda.
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10 Apr 2013   #769
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
We also get a lot of FUD about how much faster 8 is on the desktop. 7 is just as fast if you set it to Windows 2000 classic desktop and reduce the graphics subsystem overhead. This may or may not show depending on your system. On my old Athlon 754 system in Classic desktop mode it is perfectly usable, add aero and it goes into a s l o w e r mode. The same is true on my little Eee PC, so IMHO strip our aero and claim it is faster than 7 is a sham. On lower end or older hardware this is going to show up but on the average enthusiast desktop not at all. Simply put if you want 7 to be quicker turn off the eye candy and set it to hibernate.

Exactly! If you're worried about a couple of seconds and you don't like Aero, shut it off!
At least W7 gives you a CHOICE, which is more than you get with W8.

What I'd like to know is what do Microsoft and W8 fans have against choice?
If M$ had given us some reasonable options instead of that Take it or Leave it/one size fits all garbage, there wouldn't be anything to argue about.
EVERYONE would've been happy instead of a few.
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10 Apr 2013   #770
theveterans

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
I don't reject Windows 8, far from it.

But, I DO reject out of hand the idea of the cloud, and subscription-based software permanently connected to the 'net.

Not gonna happen here.

I can, and will, go offline altogether if necessary, with my pay-once-use-forever software, and not have to worry about being dragged somewhere I do NOT want to go.

Wenda.
I'm okay with subscription-based software such Office 365 as long as the cost of renting is far more economical than the pay-once-use-forever software. I'm actually using Office 365 Home Premium for 4 year subscription with university discount at a very attractive price compared to buying Office 2013 Home and Student since when Office 2016 arrives, I get the latest version free of charge as long as my subscription is still active during the release. I do however dislike Office 365 Home Premium 5 user subscription since not many families have 5 x86-64 based computers, and the price for just 1 year is outrageous. Once exception to what you said about permanent internet connection when using subscription software is Office 365 because it only checks for validation once a month according to Microsoft so you can use the program offline.

I would also agree with you about "cloud based" software subscription especially software that works like "Office on Demand" where you can only "stream" the software online and not be able to have the installation files on the hard disk.
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