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Windows 7: Why does crapware still exist?

15 Jan 2013   #11
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay View Post
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Why does crapware still exist?
Maybe its to help keep all of us alert and on our toes?
Because if (almost) everyone didn't have a bajillion toolbars on their IE and kept a gazillion viruses as pets in their computers, we computer techs, engineers, and enthusiasts would be out of a job. (*´Д`)


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15 Jan 2013   #12
indianacarnie

 

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16 Jan 2013   #13
Fantail

7 x64 | 7 x64
 
 

Crapware - HA!
My first thought was 8's metro.
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16 Jan 2013   #14
Urthboundmisfit

7 Pro SP1, 10 Pro both x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fantail View Post
Crapware - HA!
My first thought was 8's metro.
Great minds think alike, mine was Innernetz Ex-PLODE-r
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16 Jan 2013   #15
Pauly

Win7 Ultimate X64
 
 

I like the offer of the "opt in" software, when was the last time you saw an empty checkbox in an installer, not for a long time i can remember
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16 Jan 2013   #16
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
I am always careful with deselecting any check boxes, for the every reason of crapware being installed, although most of the time it is easy to remove, it's still much easier just to take a few extra seconds to read the check box description.

You always need to be careful, especially when your installing a free version of a program, for example Malwarebytes or SuperAntiSpyware, the 'free trail' is enabled by default, which then means you are forced into purchasing the full paid version of the program at the end of the trail.
Yepperz, absolutely true. When I was fixing the laptop for the lady at the Chinese restaurant, I pointed this out to her & she said "I always wondered how all the stuff got into my system." I showed her a couple programs that offered "extras" & how to deselect the check boxes.

You have to be extra careful nowadays since there are some programs out there that will just force you to install something, without any say in the matter. I've run across a couple of these & as good as the program may sound to the people that want to install them, I tell people best not to install it since you don't know what other surprises you're going to get.

As long as they can make $$$$ out of adding extras to programs & PC's, you're going to have to be careful.

BTW...that was a fun laptop to fix...I couldn't take it home to work on it, since everything was in Chinese....LOL. But hey, I got a free lunch
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16 Jan 2013   #17
gregrocker

 

They've gotten sneakier with the crapware which pays for freeware. You now have to read the License Agreement to see what its trying to sneak in, too.

CNET ruined their reputation adding a buggy crapware downloader package to many of their downloads.

These are there because freeware authors get a commission from each sale of crapware they force you to sample.

And today's retail consumer PC is loaded with enough trial crapware to make up the profit margin for many of them, while driving down the retail price. So you get the best value and have your revenge buying a $250 PC then Clean Reinstalling Factory OEM Windows 7.
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16 Jan 2013   #18
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there .

watch out for these very common other scams: These are all based on typical users not knowing either the law or their consumer rights plus they assume most people don't read "small print" carefully and don't realize what the "default" agreement contains.

1) FREE DOWNLOAD -- often means the DOWNLOAD is free but the PRODUCT ISN'T.

2) SNEAKERWARE (or SUCKERWARE) sites like DriverMax -- where they advertise they have a huge amount of drivers and can find them for you with programs like DriverMax etc -- then to access the part of the site where they say the driver exists you have to "PAY" to access that part of the site -- even more insidious since things like Drivers etc are essentially Public Domain software available from Manufactuers sites etc.

3) TRIAL or DEMO software where the features you want are invariably the "PRO" (I.e Pay Versions).

4) DECENT LOOKING TIME LIMITED FULL TRIALS where they will debit your payment card IF YOU DON'T CANCEL --if you must use these types of sites use a "Pre pay" credit / debit card that only has a small amount of money left so they can't collect if you accidentally forget to cancel -- and remember most Debt Collection agencies have EVEN LESS legal rights to your money than your late Grandma's dead cat. They can attempt to cajole, threaten etc etc -- but just tell them the proverbial "Go and make a sexual move with a Duck.

Really decent time limited full demos will not ask for a credit / debit card when you want to trial their software -- the Software itself should be good enough to make you want to purchase it without going in via back door methods.

I'm not against people making money or advertising on the Web -- but do it HONESTLY and not like the above examples even if the above methods are technically not illegal per se.

Cheers
jimbo
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16 Jan 2013   #19
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fantail View Post
Crapware - HA!
My first thought was 8's metro.
Funny you should say that. Lucrative Windows crapware market is exactly why we need app stores | PCWorld
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16 Jan 2013   #20
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

What I have noticed more of recently is that when you go to a reputable site to download, like The Official ImgBurn Website the first button you see which appears to be the download is a crapware button, not the download that you went to the site for. It has become hard to find the download button.
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