| Windows 7: Why does crapware still exist? |
18 Jan 2013
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#41 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
There's been some hype about the latest java update to fix the bug leaving you more exposed! Mozilla is actually blocking the latest Java 7 update 10. https://blog.mozilla.org/security/20...vulnerability/ | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
18 Jan 2013
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#42 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines) Lincolnshire, UK. |
+1 Night Hawk
-I had that yesterday from FF, just proves that the open Source alternative has its eye on the ball, as usual first to act.
But if everyone keeps eyes open for the check boxes, it would not happen. I got burned once, they don't get another chance. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number (PC) Gigabyte EG41MFT-US2H Self build. (Laptop) HP Dv7. OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. (On both machines) CPU (PC) Intel Quad Core Q6600: (Laptop) Turion II M520 Motherboard PC: as above. Laptop (HP System Board) 3639 33.23 Memory PC: Corsair DDR3 4GB Corsair Laptop: DDR-2 Micron 800 4 GB. Graphics Card ATI Asus HD6770: Laptop: ATI Mobile Radeon 4500. Sound Card Onboard. Monitor(s) Displays PC: Lyama Prolite E2407HDS 24" Laptop 17" Screen Resolution PC: 1920x1080. Laptop:1600x900 Keyboard Logitech MK 250 wireless. Mouse PC: Logitech MK 250 wireless. Laptop: Logitech Wireless M235 PSU OCZ 550 GX. Laptop - ? Case Black Coolermaster Centurion 5 II. Cooling 2x120 mm. Coolermaster front & rear: 120mm. CM side fan. Hard Drives Pc: WD 5000AAKS (O/s, Photos, Files.)
Seagate ST3100520AS 1TB (Films, Video)
Laptop: WDC WD32000BEKT-605t1
External Backup: another WD 5000AAKS, in Trust E-SATA case. Internet Speed (Rural Lincolnshire!) From 2 to 2.8 Mb. Other Info Clean-installed laptop. PC, networked as Master to laptop.
TV Tuner card "WinTV Nova T-500 Dual Tuner fitted, in order to watch sport & own film/TV choice without marital discord! NOTE: works fine, excellent Freeview reception in a poor signal area.
Laptop Mouse: tiny USB thumb drive, works fine. |
18 Jan 2013
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#43 | | |
Maybe I've misunderstood you, but...
On one of my laptops the Java version is 7.09 and Mozilla did not disable it, and yes, the laptop does have Firefox version 18.01. The plugin check page did complain about the outdated version of java and flash, haven't boot this laptop for couple of month, but by no means Mozilla should disable plugins in my systems. They have no access to my system for blocking functions in my installation of Firefox. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built at Home OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel i5-3350P 3.1 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH Memory 16 GBs GSkill Sniper Graphics Card Radeon HD 7850 Sound Card VIA HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2410 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard Mouse Logitech Trackball PSU Thermaltake 850W Case Antec P183 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Heatsink 2 x 120mm fans, 4 x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1 x Intel 520 240 GBs
1 x Seagate 1TBs SATA 2.0,
1 x Seagate 1TBs eSATA 2.0 Internet Speed 28.5 Mb/s |
18 Jan 2013
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#44 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison +1 Night Hawk
-I had that yesterday from FF, just proves that the open Source alternative has its eye on the ball, as usual first to act.
But if everyone keeps eyes open for the check boxes, it would not happen. I got burned once, they don't get another chance. Unfortunately that is how you learn! I had that happen a few times either when not immediately spotting the "unwanted extras" and then the need to get rid of them or simply forgetting to look and uncheck and then have to go back and remove! I think most us have been in that spot likely more times then we realize over a period of years.
When trying out a few freebie dvd burners or video converter programs they always manage to slip in something under the hood you don't find until after you start using the program itself. I seen that stunt too often as well as the unwanted toolbar crapola! 
Quote: Originally Posted by Cr00zng Maybe I've misunderstood you, but...
On one of my laptops the Java version is 7.09 and Mozilla did not disable it, and yes, the laptop does have Firefox version 18.01. The plugin check page did complain about the outdated version of java and flash, haven't boot this laptop for couple of month, but by no means Mozilla should disable plugins in my systems. They have no access to my system for blocking functions in my installation of Firefox. That was a bit odd here when first seen. But according to that source the very latest is what is effected which would be the 7.10 not any previous update. Evidently Mozilla found a new bug in that that wasn't seen in anything previously and made the move to block it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
18 Jan 2013
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#45 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
Unwanted Changes I've seen some installers make changes to the Registry and create folders on your drives, EVEN if you don't install them.
The other thing I hate, is the installers that replace the "Next" and "Back" buttons, with "Accept" and "Decline" buttons. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD6450 Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24 |
18 Jan 2013
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#46 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Those pages always offer crapware. Choose Decline whenever it appears. | My System Specs | | |
18 Jan 2013
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#47 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
I run into that quite often then not when you want to try one thing but are required to install some crapware along with it? No Thanks! That download gets dumped on the spot!
When you can't opt out of something unwanted the thing to remember is that the program you are trying out is also placed into the "Unwanted" catagory along with the other crap.  That's when you look for a better alternative that at least provides key word "options"! You typically would expect that from Adobe as well as other better software writers but can still see the crud mixed in at times. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
19 Jan 2013
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#48 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
All times I used Tor network for anonimity, the browser in the client package (a slightly modified Firefox they just call TorBrowser) is set to use Startpage.com as primary search engine, it boasts about not collecting data, IP and stuff.
It is basically a dedicated proxy to use Google's search engine safely.
The company operating it is Ixquick.
I think that the opt-out site gregrocker posted does more or less the same as the Firefox options about telling the sites to not track me (in the privacy tab of the option panel). As it does not force the company to do anything, I think Ghostery and/or NoScript addon is better (as they lock down tracking scripts/cookies/whatever with force). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! |
20 Jan 2013
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#49 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Sometimes it helps having a 3rd party source to intervene. But that is for web browsing(safe) in general not finding "unwanted" items pushed on you when supposedly downloading an update from a regular source such as Adobe or SUN Microsystems who supplies java runtime.
Now when mentioning Adobe.com obviously the first thing you will hear back is that "you can always use Sumatra!" while in fact all too many sites with pdf docs to view require the Adobe Reader to be installed. It's what you call an industry "web based" standard. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
20 Jan 2013
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#50 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
Quote: Now when mentioning Adobe.com obviously the first thing you will hear back is that "you can always use Sumatra!" while in fact all too many sites with pdf docs to view require the Adobe Reader to be installed. It's what you call an industry "web based" standard. what sites are you talking about? I never had any issue seeing PDFs in my browser in the couple years I'm using Foxit Reader (and its plugin), although my browsing habits may (should) differ from yours. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! Why does crapware still exist? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 AM. | |