| Windows 7: Why does crapware still exist? |
21 Jan 2013
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#61 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Method In my case the method is not always the same. For example this site presents me with the window where I choose to save or open (same as the one you posted). But then there are sites that load the file opened and in a new window.
In the case of the new window not a new tab (this is for Nitro Reader) their is a menu shows up when you hover at the bottom which gives a choice of open in default reader, save (DL) Also there is zoom controls. That I believe is part of Nitro. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
21 Jan 2013
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#62 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
The FF prompt and that particular reader is simply the program selected when asked what you are going to do with the file itself. open, save it to a folder with the option for automatically seeing that done from then on. What I was referring to earlier was those times when a site plainly states "Adobe reader required".
Typically Windows will default to Adobe if you have it installed where you may not even see a prompt like that but simply prompted for opening or saving a file. As far as seeing any crapware the most I've seen with anything Adobe was the option for the ask toolbar when going direct to their site to download a newer version for something. When prompted by notification about an update you never see anything other then the newer version go on. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
22 Jan 2013
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#63 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk The FF prompt and that particular reader is simply the program selected when asked what you are going to do with the file itself. open, save it to a folder with the option for automatically seeing that done from then on. I am aware of that.
You wrote (previously): 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk Well not everyone is aware that they can easily save pdf files to the drive and view them with a separate program. Firefox, Chrome, IE9, Maxthon & Opera automatically ask you what you want to do.
Firefox and Opera offer to make your choice the default action. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk What I was referring to earlier was those times when a site plainly states "Adobe reader required". bobafetthotmail asked for a link to be posted, so that we could check it out.  
Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail Can you link one I can access to? (please don't link to your tax payment forms) 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk As far as seeing any crapware the most I've seen with anything Adobe was the option for the ask toolbar when going direct to their site to download a newer version for something. The Flash Player installer page always offers to install McAfee (well ... it always offers it to me). 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk When prompted by notification about an update you never see anything other then the newer version go on. Agreed.
The Flash Player Auto-Updater appears to only update Flash. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD6450 Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24 |
22 Jan 2013
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#64 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
Chrome allows you to nominate your default download location as well: | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
22 Jan 2013
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#65 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
The separate downloads for each always tend to see the "other options" when comparing those to the update notifications for things like reader, Flash Player, and a few others. McA(Fail) and the ask.com toolbar are the more frequent items seen with those. You know where those end up!
Here I have one other continual prompt which appears to be for Flash Player with "failed to update" popup since WaterFox is the 64bit flavor of FireFox. Yet the download for the Mozilla browsers for the open source flavor of the Flash Player seemed to have no trouble at all with the install.
Getting back to the Adobe reader required this is looking back not only in the last few years but collectively for the last decade or so when running into that frequently. On one of the old XP builds I had left Adobe out of the equation but ended up needing to back after it when the Sumatra reader was rather new at the time.
Back before the fresh 7 install in June I actually had Opera set as the default on a few things and I ended up seeing the icon for Opera on too much. FireFox 12 was on as well as Opera, the last Netscape Navigator 9, WF, and some others like Flock and Ice Weasel when having a collection of them going. Each except Netscape was set to ask each time once the Opera situation was corrected. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
30 Jan 2013
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#66 | | 7 x64 | 7 x64 Syracuse NY, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 Even Adobe trys to bundle some things in with the update, although I haven't seen this the last couple times. I noticed that whenever you went to the site, it tried to get you to include something from McAfee in the d/l (some kind of toolbar I believe). It was off to the side so you had to be sure to look at the entire page before hitting the update button. Wonder how many people inadvertently d/led McFubar?
... The other night I 'rented' a movie off Amazon - was prompted to update the Adobe player version - installer progress bar shows two other included crapware installs - no selection option other then canceling the entire install.
I had thought a predominate higher quality company would have the decency to avoid annoying users.
I was wrong. Fracking scumbags. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self - Build | Asus K53e Laptop OS 7 x64 | 7 x64 CPU AMD 64x2 5400 2.8 | i5 Sandy Bridge Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H 3.3 | K53e Memory 4 gigs GSkill ddr2 800 | 8 gigs Adata ddr3 1600 Graphics Card xFx HD5670 1 gig ddr5 | Intel HD 3000 Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays 19" Samsung 18" NEC & 37" Toshiba | 15.6 Keyboard Rosewill RK-800G PS/2 Gaming Keyboard | Asus Chiclet Mouse Logitec MX518 | MS w/side buttons PSU hec 485w dual rail | 65w Case CoolMaster Centurion 534+ Cooling Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm Core Contact Freezer Hard Drives 120 OCZ Vertex II ssd | 750 Caviar Black 7200 sata | 500 spinpoint Internet Speed RoadRunner Other Info Logitec x540 5.1 audio
Windows 7 Speech Recognition
Modified Air-flow / Cooling system |
30 Jan 2013
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#67 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
I've been letting Adobe updater stay in msconfig>Startup to test if I can get clean Flash updates due to their importance for performance and security. So far I've not gotten anything added that I can see in Programs or Browser Add-Ons.
The MucAfee Scan offer does show up to deselect in their download from Adobe website. The fact they're in with that big money ruin racket makes me think less of their company. | My System Specs | | |
30 Jan 2013
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#68 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
McAFudgewares always seem to be in cahoots with a large number of companies to push their own crapware trialwares!  I've run into that one all too many times when going to look at some new program or service and then all the crap you have to uncheck or see new search engine, home page, addon toolbar tossed in your face!  'take that crap and shove it somewhere! Grrrr...."
Typically you would expect some crud when trying some free dvd burning program and be faced with items that will install as part of the installation where you then remove each one separately later. For the name brand companies it is annoying as all heck for the typical user and doesn't reflect well on a particular company. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
12 Feb 2013
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#69 | | 7 x64 | 7 x64 Syracuse NY, USA |
I just updated KMPlayer.
Download prompted with two additional 'optional crapware'.
Actuall Install prompted for two addtional 'crapware options'.
Scank weasle nonsence. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self - Build | Asus K53e Laptop OS 7 x64 | 7 x64 CPU AMD 64x2 5400 2.8 | i5 Sandy Bridge Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H 3.3 | K53e Memory 4 gigs GSkill ddr2 800 | 8 gigs Adata ddr3 1600 Graphics Card xFx HD5670 1 gig ddr5 | Intel HD 3000 Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays 19" Samsung 18" NEC & 37" Toshiba | 15.6 Keyboard Rosewill RK-800G PS/2 Gaming Keyboard | Asus Chiclet Mouse Logitec MX518 | MS w/side buttons PSU hec 485w dual rail | 65w Case CoolMaster Centurion 534+ Cooling Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120mm Core Contact Freezer Hard Drives 120 OCZ Vertex II ssd | 750 Caviar Black 7200 sata | 500 spinpoint Internet Speed RoadRunner Other Info Logitec x540 5.1 audio
Windows 7 Speech Recognition
Modified Air-flow / Cooling system |
12 Feb 2013
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#70 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Don't you just love it!  barf! to the extreme! I've had them where "you had to download" the other Crapola just to get to the main program you wanted to look over!  ( "we got another guiliable fool today!" ha haaa  smirks some wise #$%&@ in the background) | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi Why does crapware still exist? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:15 AM. | |