| Windows 7: Microsoft fined by European Commission over web browser |
06 Mar 2013
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#11 | | Windows 8 Pro Standish, Lancashire, England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf 
Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 It's an excuse to hand out a big fine to fund the gravy train, I expect Google to be next in line for an outrageous fine for just carrying out their business. Haven't they already targeted Google? I dont think they have slapped them with a big fine in a good while. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number doofenshmirtz evil incorporated OS Windows 8 Pro CPU Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Motherboard ASRock X79 EXTREME11 Memory 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum Graphics Card 2x 3GB EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked+ Sound Card Creative Monitor(s) Displays 3 x27" Dell & 2 x 23" Dell Screen Resolution 3 @ 2560x1440 & 2 @ 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergononic 7000 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Cooling Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 Series, 2.5" SSD, SATA III
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HP CP1515n Color Laser
Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
APC 750i Smart UPS |
06 Mar 2013
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#12 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: I, for one, refuse to be told by these dictators what I use to browse the web Nobody tells you anything. They just want to make sure the other options are easily accessible. Not everybody is as smart as you are and can get it on his own. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
06 Mar 2013
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#13 | | Windows 8 Pro Standish, Lancashire, England |
As Chrome dominates the browser market it just show that regulation and fines are not necessary because people already understand that they can install what ever browser they want. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number doofenshmirtz evil incorporated OS Windows 8 Pro CPU Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Motherboard ASRock X79 EXTREME11 Memory 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum Graphics Card 2x 3GB EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked+ Sound Card Creative Monitor(s) Displays 3 x27" Dell & 2 x 23" Dell Screen Resolution 3 @ 2560x1440 & 2 @ 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergononic 7000 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Cooling Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 Series, 2.5" SSD, SATA III
Intel X25-M SSD - 160GB Internet Speed 34 Mb/s ADSL2+ (Bonded) Antivirus Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Pro Browser Firefox Other Info WinTV NovaTD
HP CP1515n Color Laser
Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
APC 750i Smart UPS |
06 Mar 2013
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#14 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs If somebody make a commitment and does not stick to it, do you let them get away with it ??
I agree that making a commitment and then breaking that commitment is what this is about and it is fully justifiable to hold them to it.
I guess my problem with all this is that MS should not have been forced to promote competitor's software in their OS in the first place. When they did agree to it, they should have stuck with it, but it was and is unfair to make them do this in the first place (just my opinion). I can understand the prevention of monopolies, and fair business practices, and packaging the browser allows MS to have it more mainstream and a bigger customer base than the competitor, but it's a freaking free browser. It's not like MS was making it so people couldn't use any other browser with their OS or suppressing search results for firefox or something. Ten years ago, Nobody had to prompt me during install about firefox for me to hear about it, find it, install it and switch to it. Windows didn't prevent me from getting another browser. It's not like I could only use IE with windows...
I feel some things are needed for the PC that should come prepackaged. browser, media center, virus protection, word processing, image editing should all be available and MS does this (well except AV suite). I'm sure they left out AV simply because of this and you see what happens with that. you get PC's with trial software that expires and either leaves the user high and dry or makes them think they need to pay for an AV suite.
Purchasing a laptop that only has an OS and no actual programs that can do the daily tasks that you bought it for would be frustrating to the 100% of consumers who know little to nothing about computers. (this statistic is not based on fact it is purely made up)
Ok /rant | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD / 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Antivirus MSE Browser Firefox Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - currently overheating problems :(
2nd Rig: Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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Heatsink: COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1866 (PC3 15000)
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 2 |
06 Mar 2013
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP-1 Upinya! |
Eh, just a drop in the bucket for these corp.'s | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP-1 CPU Intel Core i5 3rd Gen. w/ Turbo Boost 2.6 Motherboard Asus Mouse Logitech Anywhere MX Hard Drives 8" Drive (primary storage device)
2 TB External
1 Internal HD Internet Speed Light Speed Antivirus MSE |
06 Mar 2013
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#16 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
In Windows 8 they fixed the AV problem with Defender (former MSE) being standard out of the box. I wonder what the Nortons, McAfees etc. have to say about that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
06 Mar 2013
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#17 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by HarryHusker Eh, just a drop in the bucket for these corp.'s Pretty much. 2012 total earnings: $74 billion Microsoft Reports Record Fourth-Quarter and Full-Year Revenue
Fine: $731 million
So only close to 1% of their business for one year... | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD / 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Antivirus MSE Browser Firefox Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - currently overheating problems :(
2nd Rig: Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
CPU: AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo)
Heatsink: COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1866 (PC3 15000)
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 2 |
06 Mar 2013
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 Doncaster, UK |

Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen It's not like MS was making it so people couldn't use any other browser with their OS or suppressing search results for firefox or something. Ten years ago, Nobody had to prompt me during install about firefox for me to hear about it, find it, install it and switch to it. Windows didn't prevent me from getting another browser. It's not like I could only use IE with windows... Well said.
If Opera, Chrome, Firefox, et al want more publicity and a bigger share of the market, why don't they make adverts showcasing their capabilities? As far as I am aware, I've only ever seen ones for IE. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz) Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Memory 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB) Graphics Card 2 x AMD Radeon HD7770 1GB CrossFired (OC 1100MHz/1250MHz) Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB) PSU XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular Case Gigabyte IF233 Cooling 1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
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Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
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CTF-430 Tablet & Pen
WEI Score: 7.7/7.9/7.4/7.4/7.9
Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter) |
06 Mar 2013
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#19 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Ahh, I See 
Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen It's not like MS was making it so people couldn't use any other browser with their OS or suppressing search results for firefox or something. Ten years ago, Nobody had to prompt me during install about firefox for me to hear about it, find it, install it and switch to it. Windows didn't prevent me from getting another browser. It's not like I could only use IE with windows... Well said.
If Opera, Chrome, Firefox, et al want more publicity and a bigger share of the market, why don't they make adverts showcasing their capabilities? As far as I am aware, I've only ever seen ones for IE.
Have they made it easily removable? If so I am not aware of it. It smacks of the practice that to get this program (one which you paid dearly for) you must install this also. What??? You don't want it? How stupid can you be to have an opinion of your own!!!!! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
06 Mar 2013
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#20 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by HammerHead 
Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen It's not like MS was making it so people couldn't use any other browser with their OS or suppressing search results for firefox or something. Ten years ago, Nobody had to prompt me during install about firefox for me to hear about it, find it, install it and switch to it. Windows didn't prevent me from getting another browser. It's not like I could only use IE with windows... Well said.
If Opera, Chrome, Firefox, et al want more publicity and a bigger share of the market, why don't they make adverts showcasing their capabilities? As far as I am aware, I've only ever seen ones for IE.
Have they made it easily removable? If so I am not aware of it. It smacks of the practice that to get this program (one which you paid dearly for) you must install this also. What??? You don't want it? How stupid can you be to have an opinion of your own!!!!! I'm having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.
Care to rephrase please? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 professional X64 CPU AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz. Motherboard Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz Graphics Card XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Logitech M504 PSU Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W Case Thermaltake Commander MS-I Cooling Cooler Master N520 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
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