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Windows 7: Why Moore's Law, not mobility, is killing the PC


08 Mar 2013   #21

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Believe me when I say "Most won't"! The conditions people live and work under in some places are horrid and considerably inhuman until circumstances change and that particular culture abolishes abuses on a large scale! Speaking of waste they have had their problems(in Bejiing lately) with "Smog" the nasty word not heard in the US since the 1960s! That's when the EPA got to work getting after corporations to clean up their acts! The corps outsourced elsewhere as a result and you know where some of those places are!

In places where labor is dirt cheap and no one is demanding higher wages companies are making hugh profits suppying us with all the gimics of a modern consumer life. The rush to gain an edge by each manufacturer however has led to the present sort of stalemate as far as reaching the present limitations until some newer technology appears. That rush to compete along with commercial profit margins has come with it's price tags being tucked away elsewhere outside of our normal view on things.

That even includes some of the latest innovations outside of the desktop platform. http://www.zdnet.com/google-glass-yo...it-7000012254/

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08 Mar 2013   #22

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Yes Night Hawk it stinks through and through and that idiot with the camera well I wonder how long before he gets it shoved into his face by some really big biker
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09 Mar 2013   #23

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As you or I would be appalled by reports on what conditions are seen in those places the corporations have been exploiting the cheap labor for decades turning a "blind eye" to the local environment for the bottom line almighty dollar! And once companies find other ways to "cut corners" in lower manufacturing costs like cheaper made desktops that fall apart and fail easier people tend to jump on the ease of finding as well as ease and convenience to carry around these other devices.

The parts manufacturers on the other hands who sell to the custom case builder knows they have to keep coming out with something even better for each new thing in order to see it sell. They are now hitting a few road blocks when it comes to not being able to come out with something new that dusts off what you already have! As the writer there indicated there was no great leaps and bounds to see when going from the Core 2 to I5, I7 Core series to some extent. With AMD as well as tne Atholon IIs and Phenom IIs surpass any of the first dual cores and certainly slower single cores while not blasting past their more recent but not so new Atholon and Phenom dual cores once a bench mark region has been reached.

Unfortunately to get these updated technologies at lower more reasonable prices you have to also consider where the labor in manufacturing is from and what elements workers are exposed to when finding yourself stunned by the harsh conditions found in other places. Someone going in to take notes(and photos as well) on what is conditions are like and then reporting on it can be subject to change at times.(face smashed in, bones broken, or else ) if someone doesn't want word getting out that is.

The harsh reality is we enjoy the fruits of the hard work and suffering of others in a "dog eat dog" world at times.
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09 Mar 2013   #24

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Well put Night Hawk and I for one am with you all the way.
I have seen those documentaries as I mentioned the Coltan, the plastic and heavy metal waste and also the abhorrent and truly obscene use of children in those filthy slum factories in India where they make clothing and shoes and all manner of things we take for granted.

I used to have a fellow who worked as a travelling / buying rep for horse saddlery - bridles etc etc come in for regular blood testing when I was the Nurse Manager at a small country hospital and he showed us home taken videos of some of the conditions of the sweat shops in India where he went to buy those products for just about next to nothing. They employed the people some as young as 5 who did nothing all day but tan, cut, shape, and emboss leather goods meant for horse riding back here in Australia in what can only be described as squalid and absolutely filthy. He (and the owners of those businesses there) had no qualms about doing what he / they did and retorted if they didn't have that then they would not have anything.
That in my mind is no excuse for letting that go on.

People wonder why there has to be war but until they get equality right there is no way was will ever be eradicated. Personally I think those pacifists of whatever leaning live in lala land and ought to wake up to that fact. Why do they think our troops are over in Afghanistan for the fun of it no because if it was left to what they had before is something not even worth contemplating. But I suppose I shall get a flaming for voicing what I have - oh well dog eat dog as you say.
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09 Mar 2013   #25

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Well it goes to show that even here in the 21st century we still have a long way to go before you will ever expect to anything like what Gene Roddenbury envisioned in the Star Trek tv series(1960s) which ironically became a favorite for teaching the English language in some of these same areas! Too bad the utopian idea of a unified human race is still a far fetched dream compared to actual reality even in a modern age has to make you wonder!

As far as being in Afghanistan that was for an entirely different reason when someone planned and had carried out an attack on the US. And what happened to all the planners? We got them buzzards one by one! We had to go to Afghanistan however and will be leaving once the job is done at least for the most part. The Afghans now have to pick up where we leave off!

Who knows maybe when they learn how to do something more then blow each other up they will discover "ecommerce" or something like that and come ouf of the 13th century mind set to actually realize equal rights have to apply to all. Until then however we can only "keep dreaming buddy!" since it won't be any time soon!
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09 Mar 2013   #26

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I agree to an extent Night Hawk but I also think that what was going on in that awful place - regime wise was and is as much of an issue.

I am not belittling the attack on the US and you have to remember that there were similar attacks elsewhere like London, one in Spain, and that dreadful attack in Bali all caused by the same radical group whatever you call it / them.

I think that one thinks of the twin towers the most because of the sheer enormous loss of life and injury to all individuals but it doesn't make it any worse than killing likewise anywhere else - however how many that might be I think you would have to agree.

I have no doubt in my mind that there have been attacks planned for out here that have been foiled but I do suppose that policing such acts out here is easier to do than in the US because of the difference in population levels.

I think we have ourselves to blame in some respect in that the west (and I don't aim that at the US it was all of the western countries) wrong at the time but it was done and now we are getting a backlash of what we did, and I don't see any end in sight because as you put it again quite rightly put it it is still a long lost world of thinking and ideation from which I suspect they do not want to come out of.
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10 Mar 2013   #27

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Free Trade is responsible.

In the "Good Old Days", countries would levy tariffs against places like the ones you guys have mentioned.
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10 Mar 2013   #28

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Well not wanting to get further into other topics I will simply mention that the usual driving motivation is political or acquiring political power in some way, shape, or form. The harsh abuses seen are also the result of corruption and no labor laws in effect in those other places. The human race knows far more on how to harm itself then better it unfortunately. We seem to find that too much easier for some reason!

As for Free Trade that makes for "Globalization" don't you know?! "We want it We get it!" is the thought there as we tend to be consumers on a larger scale. Our economies are consumer driven types for the most part regardless of how corporations take advantage of other things to keep us supplied!
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10 Mar 2013   #29

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Exactly

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
As for Free Trade that makes for "Globalization" don't you know?! "We want it We get it!" is the thought there as we tend to be consumers on a larger scale. Our economies are consumer driven types for the most part regardless of how corporations take advantage of other things to keep us supplied!
Exactly.

The irony is the most voracious consumers, are accelerating the destruction of their own jobs.
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10 Mar 2013   #30

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As for Free Trade that makes for "Globalization" don't you know?! "We want it We get it!" is the thought there as we tend to be consumers on a larger scale. Our economies are consumer driven types for the most part regardless of how corporations take advantage of other things to keep us supplied!

Yep and look what happened to the Euro zone what a shambles that is.
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