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Windows 7: FBI 'secretly spying' on Google users, company reveals


08 Mar 2013   #1
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FBI 'secretly spying' on Google users, company reveals

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The FBI used National Security Letters -- a form of surveillance that privacy watchdogs call “frightening and invasive” -- to surreptitiously seek information on Google users, the web giant has just revealed.
Google’s disclosure is “an unprecedented win for transparency,” privacy experts said Wednesday. But it’s just one small step forward.



Source: Fox News

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08 Mar 2013   #2

Win7 Pro SP1 64
 
 

This is nothing new, The FBI has been doing such things since it's inception, but now it is on The Net.
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08 Mar 2013   #3

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I don't think that is news as they claim. Every country has methods of watching things they think need watching. Catching the bad guys is not always as sweat and lovely as some would like it to be. This country and many others are not going to let the bad guy's communicate around the world using the internet with out watching what is going on.
If you think about it using your own thought and not those crammed at you ever day by the news media you want the government monitoring in order to catch the bad guy's before they do the big boom.
Just a few weeks ago the FBI caught some bad guy's trying to blow up a huge bridge right out side of Cleveland Ohio. Of course the FBI didn't disclose all the methods they used to monitor these people in order to catch them. It probably save hundreds if not thousands of lives.
Years ago the FBI followed the bad guys around. Tapped their phones, search through their garbage, took all kinds of pictures ect. Now they just added watching the internet and cell phones.
New technology brings on new methods of monitoring.
Rulers, leaders and governments have been monitoring for thousands of years. If this country would of done a better job of monitoring the World Trade Center would probably still be standing and the lives of 3000 people saved.
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08 Mar 2013   #4

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX Maverick
 
 

Layback Bear is correct, this has been going on for awhile by now and it is too late to wake up...

The Supreme Court recently struck down a challenge to the warrantless phone tapping used by the government. In the hearing, the U.S. Department of Justice Solicitor General Donald Verrilli argued that citizens have nothing to worry about in losing their privacy if they have nothing to hide. in another word, behave people if you don't want us to nail your ars, because we are monitoring you...

Then there's AG Eric Holder told Sen. Rand Paul that "hypothetically" drone strikes could be used on U.S. soil to kill Americans. Note, that using the drones to monitor Americans within the US is perfectly acceptable.

By all means prevent another terrorist attack, but do it without setting aside the Constitution. Get the warrant if, well, it is warranted...
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08 Mar 2013   #5

Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit Professional
 
 

VPN + DuckDuckGo in stead of Google = Privacy.

Of course they are monitoring you. Even more, I bet significantly much money on Google also selling your data and recent search history to companies.
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08 Mar 2013   #6

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX Maverick
 
 

There's nothing wrong with getting political every once in while, as long as people behave. Otherwise there will be an "authorized drone strike" for people who don't....
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08 Mar 2013   #7

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX Maverick
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nommy the first View Post
VPN + DuckDuckGo in stead of Google = Privacy.

Of course they are monitoring you. Even more, I bet significantly much money on Google also selling your data and recent search history to companies.
That's a sucker bet... More than 95% of Google's income is coming from advertisement; you bet your dupa that they do sell your data...
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08 Mar 2013   #8

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

This thread is going to get very political very soon I'm afraid, so I deleted my last post here. This is my favorite spot/nook on the web and I have no desire to suffer Carls fate. I don't agree with some of the things already said here and do agree with other comments.

What has to be remembered is that Data by itself is neither good nor bad. Its whats DONE with that data. It can be ignored, like much of it is even if its germaine (i.e. WTC) or can be acted on.

I too use DuckDuckGo most of the time for the little extra privacy but am under no illusions about it. If a Government entity WANTS your particulars, it'll get them.
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08 Mar 2013   #9

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
There's nothing wrong with getting political every once in while, as long as people behave. Otherwise there will be an "authorized drone strike" for people who don't....
EXCEPT that its not allowed here. Rule 8, No discussions of religion, politics, or firearms.

I frequent a "political" site (under this same username btw) and when I feel like talking politics THATS where I go. This site is a haven to me and I don't want to lose that.
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08 Mar 2013   #10

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

I don't think duckduckgo sells your info, but I would say it would be just as easy to serve them with NSL's as it is with google. The key here would be the vpn... I have not researched this but I think I know how this is supposed to work...

As for the 'Breaking News' as others have said, this is nothing new, but I don't agree with it. It is a process of monitoring people who are not criminals. If left unchecked, it turns all citizens into suspects in the eye of the law instead of through due process.

This would be news if google reported that in 2012 there were 16,000 requests in 2011 and then 12,360,000 requests in 2012.... that would be scary. 16,000 requests vs. the number of people who go onto google isn't that much. 12million requests would be a sign of broad sweeping data collection on internet users. Otherwise, this is just more evidence of the police state's power to spy on it's own citizens.

Also as Indianacarnie said, I don't mean to post political either. I veiw this as a Human rights or ethical matter. also, it relates to technology
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