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Windows 7: Why Windows Blue heralds the death of the desktop

31 Mar 2013   #41
x BlueRobot

 

You might also have to unlock Secure Boot though, but not to worry, there's already been tutorials written up on this forum for that.


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31 Mar 2013   #42
Gary

Win 10 Pro 64
 
 

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You can run The Gimp and as far as Adobe , they are moving towards a cloud application. Most of Europe already is om Linux.
Gimp is a good program by all accounts but there is nothing that can touch InDesign in the open source world. Just cannot get my head round trusting Cloud. Got a few confidentiality agreements in place so not sure how they would stack up
Adobe is not given customers a choice. There will be no more boxed sets of CSX products beginning with the next release.
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31 Mar 2013   #43
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Just think of where Windows 8 would be if Dell didn't buy up 40 million licenses to force on people right off the bat........the uproar over 8 has been bad enough. I'm still hoping they will be inclined to release a Service Pack that will allow a "Desktop" and "Non-Desktop" installation of 8. It's a shame that all of the great features of Windows 8 are overshadowed because of that janky Metro feature and not having a pure desktop feature.
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31 Mar 2013   #44
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
I was talking in regards to desktop usage of Linux, IE workstations used by employees at a company to crunch spreadsheets and write up paperwork or your at-home PC that your mother might use to calculate taxes or manage her blog.

Server usage of Linux has always been a major player alongside Windows servers and Red Hat is a shining example of it. Sadly though, bringing up the success of server Linux in a topic about desktop Linux is akin to comparing apples to oranges; they're both Linux, but their intended markets and uses are completely different.
King Arthur. That is exactly why I have installed several different Linux versions on a VM and have installed Mint on my PC. I am going to learn it. I do not want to go the path M$ has chosen. Over the years I have spent thousands of $ on software, Operating Systems, Office Suites, Map Programs, Utilities, Games etc. I can use what I have and eventually 2 things will happen. 1 I'll be using Linux and won't care a monkeys or 2 M$ will come to their senses and produce an OS without the playmobile interface and with a desktop akin to Windows 7.
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31 Mar 2013   #45
Gary

Win 10 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Just think of where Windows 8 would be if Dell didn't buy up 40 million licenses to force on people right off the bat........the uproar over 8 has been bad enough. I'm still hoping they will be inclined to release a Service Pack that will allow a "Desktop" and "Non-Desktop" installation of 8. It's a shame that all of the great features of Windows 8 are overshadowed because of that janky Metro feature and not having a pure desktop feature.
I read somewhere today that Dell is for sale.
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31 Mar 2013   #46
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

This "blue" is allegedly a SP for win 8.
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31 Mar 2013   #47
Dallas 7

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gary View Post
I read somewhere today that Dell is for sale.

"It's unclear if Silver Lake, Blackstone, or Carl Icahn will buy out the PC maker, but Michael Dell is reportedly saying he'll only support Blackstone if he remains the company's CEO."

Dell CEO said to mull Blackstone buyout only with CEO assurance | Business Tech - CNET News
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31 Mar 2013   #48
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
I'm running Linux in a VM, although, I would prefer to dual boot with Linux since my hardware isn't exactly the best for running a VM with ease, but I'm afraid of the complications between GRUB and the Windows Boot Manager.
Create a backup HDD image, before you start using Macrium Reflect (or something similar).
Remember to create the recovery disc, before you try installing the second OS.

I pre-partition and format my HDD using GParted (so I don't get the System Reserved partition).
Obviously:
  • Windows: NTFS
  • Linux: ext4
I don't let the Windows installer reformat the partition.

I install the oldest version of Windows first (XP) and then the later versions (W7).
Finally I install Linux.

Using this method, I've never had boot problems related to the installers.
I have had problems caused by my own mistakes (e.g. failing to disconnect secondary HDDs).

A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.
Note:
I'm not saying that the System Reserved partition is solely responsible (I haven't read every thread related to dual boot problems).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mart4494 View Post
Think that will be the case with many W7 users. Hopefully though it will still be possible to install W7 on new hardware especially that UEFI (or whatever it's called) bios.
It should still be possible to install it in a VM and run it on a Linux host.

Don't forget that (if they are still around) desktop PCs will be a lot more powerful ("Moore's Law" suggests 16x - 32x).

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gary View Post
I read somewhere today that Dell is for sale.

"It's unclear if Silver Lake, Blackstone, or Carl Icahn will buy out the PC maker, but Michael Dell is reportedly saying he'll only support Blackstone if he remains the company's CEO."

Dell CEO said to mull Blackstone buyout only with CEO assurance | Business Tech - CNET News
I read an article a few weeks ago suggesting that MS might buy some of Dell.
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31 Mar 2013   #49
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.
That why I recommend removing it if you do not need it - it avoids the Wiondows bootmanager and GRUB interactions:
Dual Boot - Windows 7 and Linux
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31 Mar 2013   #50
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.
That why I recommend removing it if you do not need it - it avoids the Wiondows bootmanager and GRUB interactions:
Dual Boot - Windows 7 and Linux
IMO, it's probably better to avoid it in the first place (i.e. prevent it from being created during the install).
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