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Windows 7: The Internet is a surveillance state

25 Apr 2013   #11

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
I too have nothing to hide, but it is the principle of the thing. Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean it's ok to spy on me. It's like saying a cop could stop you and search you any time they want. I'd be ok, as they'd find nothing, but it's about rights and privacy. A Guy

Exactly.


The internet itself isn't the issue, it's the men that created it that is.

Honesty, honor, integrity, and altruism are very rare traits in the human being.

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25 Apr 2013   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit)
 
 
First they came ...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
The internet itself isn't the issue, it's the men that created it that is.
I'm not sure that I'd blame them.
Apart from actual criminals, most of these issues are caused by Governments and Corporations.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
Honesty, honor, integrity, and altruism are very rare traits in the human being.
Agreed.
Especially when money and power are at stake.

This old verse sums it up:
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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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25 Apr 2013   #13

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
The internet itself isn't the issue, it's the men that created it that is.

Honesty, honor, integrity, and altruism are very rare traits in the human being.
I heartily disagree. Under this logic General Motors or Ford are responsible for drunk drivers killing people, baseball makers for all broken windows, Hammer makers for a man's split thumb, etc.
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26 Apr 2013   #14

7 x64 | 7 x64
 
 

Amazon and Newegg follows me around with their adds like spiders.
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26 Apr 2013   #15

Win 7 Pro SP1 64 Bit
 
 

It has been this way since 9.1.2001. I have nothing to hide.
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28 Apr 2013   #16

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gary View Post
It has been this way since 9.1.2001. I have nothing to hide.
I'd venture to say that members of this board have nothing to hide. Well, at least as far as law enforcement is concerned...

Most, if not all tacking identified by Collusion (FF plugin) can be stopped by browser plugins. The script based tracking is relatively easy to block and the solution is to track without scripts. One such method that tracking companies may already use is the browser unique profile based tracking. While at the current time browser plugins do not account for this type of tracking, it is possible that they could in the future. Here's a link for testing your browser's uniqueness:

https://panopticlick.eff.org

The webserver can easily add the IP address the browser accessing the site from, correlate the collected information to the available offline data, and depending on the offline data, positive ID can be made within seconds. Based on the result of identification, the appropriate advertisement is included in the webpage that the browser has requested, and the company being advertised is billed for. The whole process can be simplified, if the browser has cookies enabled, both text and LSO based.

While this is pretty much accepted as "normal" and actually is a big business ($40-50B in the US alone), I just don't like people snooping on me. My system has been configured as disable cookies, block tracking scripts, etc. While I understand that these efforts are comparable to fighting the windmill, it doesn't mean that I should stop.

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This old verse sums it up:
Quote:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Just as true as it had been in the mid-1900s...
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03 May 2013   #17

Win7 Pro 64
 
 

I don't care for being tracked as much as the next person but not much anyone can do about it. Paranoid government, businesses trying to make a buck, etc.. Just think how easy it was for the government to tie a name and picture together, camera phones and your picture with your contact number on your friends phone. Government got that information real cheap courtesy of us.
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05 May 2013   #18

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1 Pro
 
 

Being under surveillance is an inescapable fact of life nowadays. Not just on the net, but almost everywhere. You can try to use filters & blockers when you're on the net, but, inadvertently some information will leak though. You have to think very carefully about what information you decide to put out on the web.
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07 May 2013   #19

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I have nothing to hide.
The fact that I have nothing to hide should be hidden if I so choose.
Realistically you can't hide if you are on the net especially if you use a cloud for anything.
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07 May 2013   #20

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

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"Just as a social balance favoring disclosure and surveillance over privacy is a functional necessity for totalitarian systems, so a balance that ensures strong citadels of individual and group privacy and limits both disclosure and surveillance is a prerequisite for liberal democratic societies.

The democratic society relies on publicity as a control over government, and on privacy as a shield for group and individual life."

Why We Care About Privacy



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Privacy can simply be defined as the right to be left alone. 'It is a comprehensive right and it is the right most valued by a free people. It is a fundamental human right.

The UN Declaration of Human Rights defined Privacy as this:

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone had the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Without privacy life would be hell.
What is privacy and why is it important? Ľ CraigBellamy.net(.au)




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Privacy is Important for Everyone Because it’s a Right

A common misconception about privacy is that only people that have something to hide need to be concerned with it. But privacy is for everyone, even you and it’s not only necessary and important but it’s also a privilege.
Why Privacy is Important for Everyone Including You - IPVanish
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