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Windows 7: A perspective: developers vs Microsoft

13 May 2013   #1

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A perspective: developers vs Microsoft

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Most people understand that Windows is used by a variety of people who have a variety of needs, ranging from corporate server to workstation to POS terminals to home PC and beyond. Most people accept that whenever Microsoft updates Windows, it has to balance the competing requirements to find some kind of workable compromise. There is however another set of competing requirements that many do not really register, even those that call themselves power users or are IT admins. It is a conflict between developers/programmers and Microsoft itself.

Developers are ultimately the ones who write applications used by users whereas Microsoft develops the OS these applications run on. A common shared goal between the two is the desire that applications previously written continue to work. Users use Windows not to use Windows, but the applications that they need after all. Developers on the other hand have finite resources and time and the need to constantly tweak an existing program because of an unstable ABI/API is often an unwelcome distraction. Even worse for developers is when support for an API is eliminated outright, which would require a complete rewrite. Loss of a platform happens much less in the Windows world than in the open source world, and even there it is a rare event because of how pissed off the developers who make up that sphere would get. Developers also often want the platform that they are using to be continually updated either with bug fixes or new features to make certain tasks easier. Contrary to what many users might think, we generally want to be able to keep supporting our customers/users and want to add new features while keeping existing ones working. This task becomes very difficult however once a framework/platform is deprecated as certain things may simply not be possible without underlying upgrades.
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13 May 2013   #2

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From that article it sounds like the developers are complaining about the OS or any changes in the OS. But what they fail to realize is that the OS does not have to be compatible with their application, the application must be compatible with the OS. If the OS changes and their program is no longer compatible it is up to the application developer to make it compatible. I learned that a long time ago when I was a programmer at NASA.
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13 May 2013   #3

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Hi there
I replied on W8 Forums

A perspective: developers vs Microsoft

I understand that some Windows 7 members don't read W8 Forums -- and possibly the other way round too. This makes replying to these sorts of threads a bit difficult.

Maybe there should be a dynamic link that is accessed from both Windows 7 and W8 Forums for posting these sorts of threads -- although whether that's achievable with the Forum software I haven't a clue -- I'm sure the adminstrators have enough to do anyway.

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13 May 2013   #4

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I don't often cross post, so I'd think just posting the same reply here would be correct. I consider them two different forums because as you say, some will not visit the other. A Guy
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13 May 2013   #5

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
I don't often cross post, so I'd think just posting the same reply here would be correct. I consider them two different forums because as you say, some will not visit the other. A Guy
Hi there
wasn't having a go at you -- just thought that a dynamic type of link would avoid the problem if it was feasible

cheers
jimbo
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13 May 2013   #6

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Since I made the decision to stay with Win 7 until it dies, I see no need (nor do I desire) to go to the Win 8 forums.
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13 May 2013   #7

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As an ex developer I feel their pain. As a user not so much.
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13 May 2013   #8
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A true statement there about users is true. I don't "use" Windows, but the hardware and software that can be used with it.
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13 May 2013   #9

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While hardware and software is what I mostly use, I do use the OS to organize and access my data, my software, etc.
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13 May 2013   #10

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
I don't often cross post, so I'd think just posting the same reply here would be correct. I consider them two different forums because as you say, some will not visit the other. A Guy
Hi there
wasn't having a go at you -- just thought that a dynamic type of link would avoid the problem if it was feasible

cheers
jimbo
Oh I know, I was just commenting that there wasn't much need to reply to the same post on both forums A Guy
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