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Windows 7: IE10 Up, FF Returns To Second Place

17 May 2013   #21
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
On mobile devices it's a very different case -- most people (including me) just tend to use whatever browser is on the phone --in fact I don't even KNOW what it is !! I just use the "Internet App" or the "Google app" - end of. It might be chrome or something else --haven't a clue and couldn't give a rats toss --it just WORKS.

On a PC the user has a load of choices and often exercises these too -- but IMO as far as smart phones are concerned the number of people who actually download and install a specific browser are hugely in the minority so the stats on browser usage on mobile devices (at least on PHONES) should be taken with a HUGE dose of salt if these are used to determine the POPULARITY of the browser with users.

As far as tablets are concerned -- I have no idea on whether people choose to install different browsers - I'd guess a lot would just use whatever is installed on the tablet when they bought it.

In any case the whole Browser usage thing is largely irrelevant for small mobile devices -- people like Google etc essentially want to incorporate some type of advertising as people surf the net -- on small screens the traditional method of advertising doesn't work -- the screen real estate is far too small and if anything remotely pops up the user just gets rid of it PDQ. On a PC screen the advertisers are much more smart -- even if you don't deliberately READ the commercials when browsing the web sites are constructed in such a way that the messages are usually "Subliminally read" even if you try consciously to avoid reading them.

Interesting read this one -- Mind you you *might* get a 5 sec commercial before it starts.

Incredible read on Subliminal Advertising -- no wonder SevenOfNine in Star Trek could say .."You Will Comply.. You will be absorbed .. Resistance is Futile..... ".

http://www.businessinsider.com/subli...ds-2011-5?op=1

Cheers
jimbo


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17 May 2013   #22
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Thanks UsernameIssues

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
The file that you showed in you post did change for me and I hope that it changed for everyone that applied that update.
Thanks for checking that on your PC.

I assume that you are using the standard Windows logon screen theme?

I wonder what security issue(s) could be related to the logon theme?
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17 May 2013   #23
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
The file that you showed in you post did change for me and I hope that it changed for everyone that applied that update.
Thanks for checking that on your PC.

I assume that you are using the standard Windows logon screen theme?

I wonder what security issue(s) could be related to the logon theme?
Actually, I checked the laptop that my employer provides. I don't own a computer :-)

More importantly, I checked virtual machines.

I installed this update...
Update to improve messaging of dialog boxes when you run executable files in Windows
...to an OS where pretty much everything is default. I first applied it to a VM that has all of the updates thru April 2013... and it updated that file. I then applied it to what I call a "fresh SP1 build". That build has IE8 and almost no updates. Again, the file was updated.

Read the info in the link that I provided above and you will see this:

Quote:
This update changes several dialog boxes that are presented when you try to run executable files. The update changes text in dialog boxes to let you make more informed decisions on what files you should run or should not run.
I guess they are attempting to fix the biggest venerability: the user!
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17 May 2013   #24
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Interesting

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Actually, I checked the laptop that my employer provides. I don't own a computer :-)
The effect is much the same.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
More importantly, I checked virtual machines.

I installed this update...
Update to improve messaging of dialog boxes when you run executable files in Windows
...to an OS where pretty much everything is default. I first applied it to a VM that has all of the updates thru April 2013... and it updated that file. I then applied it to what I call a "fresh SP1 build". That build has IE8 and almost no updates. Again, the file was updated.

Read the info in the link that I provided above and you will see this:

Quote:
This update changes several dialog boxes that are presented when you try to run executable files. The update changes text in dialog boxes to let you make more informed decisions on what files you should run or should not run.
I guess they are attempting to fix the biggest venerability: the user!
It sounds like the UAC dialogue may be contained in that dll.

Once again, thanks for looking into this.
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17 May 2013   #25
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Yep, the effect is pretty much the same - but I was not too happy with the DELL laptop today - so I wanted to disown it; hence my posting that. The Intel video drivers will not always update all of the desktop when I close a window. The screen resolution is not what I asked for, there is not enough RAM for my VMs and the SSD is full - other than that, it is great. NOT!

The DLL is definitely a part of the UAC:

IE10 Up, FF Returns To Second Place-dll.png



But to get back on the thread's topic:
Why should we care who has the larger "market share"?


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17 May 2013   #26
x BlueRobot

 

It doesn't matter about market share at all, most people will base how good a browser is based upon how fast it loads webpages.
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17 May 2013   #27
Vipermk2

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

I use Firefox because of the versatility of the add-ons and UI, it can be tweaked in a way to exactly match how you want your browser to behave. I know Chrome seems to be faster at loading webpages but it's also less versatile, chrome is my 2nd browser followed by opera and finally IE 10 which is used as a last resort if I cant read webpages on the others.
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20 May 2013   #28
kf10

Win 7 home premium 32 bit
 
 

i dont understand according to stat counter, chrome is No. 1, IE 2nd and FF 3rd

Usage share of web browsers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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20 May 2013   #29
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kf10 View Post
i dont understand according to stat counter, chrome is No. 1, IE 2nd and FF 3rd

Usage share of web browsers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From the article:
Quote:
Also, while these figures related to global standings, Chrome takes the top spot in a number of geographic areas, with many countries in Europe being prolific Chrome users.
Browser stats vary wildly depending on which site you are viewing.
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20 May 2013   #30
MadSupra354

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Whether it will be back ported into W7 I don't know
Unlikely. Microsoft usually have 3 Internet Explorer updates per OS e.g. Vista: IE 7, IE 8, IE 9. 7: IE 8, IE 9, IE 10.
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