IE10 Up, FF Returns To Second Place

lehnerus2000 said:

......I don't use IE (except for checking web page assignments) because IE:

• Has an awful GUI
• Doesn't have the add-ons that I like/use

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I abhor add-ons. I don't like the "build your own browser" model. I want a browser to act the same way no matter what computer I'm on. That said, I do understand why people like add-ons; they are just not for me.

People probably get tired of reading this statement from me: there are things the IE can do that no other browser can do and I use some of those things... so it is IE for me.


Firefox is flakey for me. It does crash from time to time, but that is not the weird part. The title bar does not behave like a normal window. It sometimes delays turning blue (W7 classic theme) when the window is brought into focus. No other app does that on this laptop.

lehnerus2000 said:

UsernameIssues said:

I abhor add-ons. I don't like the "build your own browser" model. I want a browser to act the same way no matter what computer I'm on. That said, I do understand why people like add-ons; they are just not for me.

I can't surf the Internet without NoScript.
I also hate having to use a browser that doesn't have Tab Mix Plus.

UsernameIssues said:

Firefox is flakey for me. It does crash from time to time, but that is not the weird part. The title bar does not behave like a normal window. It sometimes delays turning blue (W7 classic theme) when the window is brought into focus. No other app does that on this laptop.

That is definitely a weird issue.

Do you have hardware acceleration turned on?
That feature seems to cause problems.

Does it do the same thing in "Safe Mode"?
Firefox - Start Firefox in "Safe Mode"

I had a weird problem in FF 4 (can't remember what it was) that was related to some corrupt file in my FF profile.
I exported my Bookmarks and created a new profile and the problem disappeared.

It is not worth troubleshooting since it causes no problems; it just looks weird. Hardware acceleration is and was off. I did not test in the safe mode and here is why: I set up various windows to create a video. Firefox was was doing its weird thing really well (repeatable). I could alt-tab between Firefox/notepad/task manager windows or use the mouse. With alt-tab, I could have Firefox indicating that it was in focus and have notepad's overlapping window clearly in the foreground showing that it too had focus. This condition stays until I click on the title bar for Firefox.

Or I could do the opposite; have Firefox in focus, but indicating that it was not. I then setup a VM to see if the issue showed there too. It did not, but the VM was using Firefox version 21. (Installing Firefox version 20.0.1 in the VM did not show the issue either.)

I went back to the host computer and updated to version 21.... and now I cannot get the issue to happen. I checked the release notes and I don't see an entry mentioning this issue (but the bug list mentioned some work on the toolbar). It has done this for a longtime; maybe back to version 17. If it starts doing it again, I'll see if I can document it via video - then check the safe mode.

My business site's stats are pretty much in line with ZDNet's:



FF and Chrome may switch places from month to month...

My main browser is IE10, but have FF and Opera for some browsing and they come handy for web development purposes.

IE10 has Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) that sandboxes the browser per tabs. Unfortunately, neither DNT+ nor Ghostery are they compatible with EPM, or the 64-bit version of IE10. It's pretty much a choice between security and privacy with IE10.

My solution is to use IE10 32-bit with DNT+ for privacy and MS EMET 4.0 for security.

I use Firefox and always will, have been since it was called Phoenix. I would never use Chrome.

lehnerus2000 said:

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Like I posted before, "I am always intrigued by the fact that some software (e.g. Firefox) crashes non-stop for some users and yet other users have no problems. "
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I just assume that this is due to different software combinations.

lehnerus2000 said:

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For example, I had something weird happen with the May MS Updates, but it doesn't seem to have happened to anyone else.
May's Patch Tuesday to fix two critical flaws in Internet Explorer
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Having an update replace a file like that is normal/desired.

In the post that you linked to, you said:
"After I installed the May updates I noticed that my theme was different.'
Then you showed a file that was different.

To which techtitan100 replied, "this didn't happen to me..."

Does this = theme change?
Does this = file change?

I've asked techtitan100 for clarification.

The file that you showed in you post did change for me and I hope that it changed for everyone that applied that update.