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Windows 7: Apple Dampens Windows 7 Debut with Stellar Sales, ...

16 Oct 2009   #11

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
What is it about people and Apple; why is it that for some reason someone comes up with all these stats about Macs just before Windows releases a new OS. IMO this is all a built up to discredit Windows in anyway possible by those who dislike anything that has to do with Microsoft.

Do I think that Apple will out sell Windows 7 and PC equipped with Windows 7, NO.
I totally agree with this post. and wonder why when the 2 are compared it seems like the spot light always has to do with virus? If you have somewhat of a clue the chances of you getting a virus is minimal at best. IMO. Also I like having the option to upgrade my hardware without having to search high and wide to find a mid quality video card that costs as much as a high end PC card.

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16 Oct 2009   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2
 
 

The US market is apple's strongest so any rise there is less important when dealing with the global situation, (sorry USA ). 6% of virtually nothing is still virtually nothing

In real terms it is probably more likely for an average MAC user to suffer from a virus infection than a PC user, , even though it is admittedly more likely for the PC to be subject to attack.

The average MAC user is totally convinced that they cannot be infected and therefore do not take any precautions, on the PC side it is a known issue and thus it is factored into the set-up. Due to the recent rise in MAC sales they are now becoming a more viable target for malware writers.

This is not meant as an attack on Apple but a statement of my opinion on the facts of this as I see them
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16 Oct 2009   #13

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Hi there

Pro photographers USED to use Apple far more than Windows - however with decently priced AND PERFORMING Windows machines equipped with 64 bit CPU's and the ability to run apps like CS4 in true 64 bit mode Windows machines are FAR more readily seen these days. CS4 really does fly in 64 bit mode -- Apple were late with a 64 bit OS BTW.

Add the mix to decent laptops (which a few years ago you wouldn't have dreamed of attempting to run photoshop on them out in the field) where you can run your Photoshop application and have 100% compatabilty with your desktop / studio LAN system then Windows (especially Windows 7) is essentially a "No Brainer" decision.

Even in the pre-press arena Windows machines are more common to see
than formerly.

Windows 7 will accelerate this process.

You can buy these days 3 decent WINDOWS laptops for the price of ONE Apple computer.

If you are on the road a lot a Windows replacement machine is easy and cheap if one gets lost, broken, stolen etc.

Apple has its "Fanboys" and nothing we say or do in this Forum will change their minds -- but in the hard business world where driving down costs is CRITICAL to business survival Windows will continue to rule the roost.

How many businesses issue their employees / service personnel with Iphones -however good or otherwise they are. Costs are all important here.

Don't get me wrong -- I LOVE the sleek look of some Apple machines and their monitors but I'm NOT paying that price to have a nice looking machine which won't run all the hardware I need to connect to it.

As far as Viruses are concerned please read my thread .

http://www.sevenforums.com/system-se...e-problem.html



Cheers
jimbo
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16 Oct 2009   #14

 
 

For the last 2 to 3 months whenever I would go into any type of electronics store the computer section would be dead. They would have about 20% of the usual computers out on display. People are waiting on Windows 7 to come out for one. 2nd, the manufactures emptied there stock months ago getting ready for the new models to come out with 7.

I was at BB yesterday browsing around and the Manager told me he has all the new one's in the back but just has to wait till the 22nd. I bet they are hating having to hold off on selling those! I'm not in the market for a new computer, but I can't wait to look at the new one's to see what's new. Lenovo would be a great computer to look at if I was a ready consumer. I have read alot of stuff to where they have been doing alot of neat stuff with 7.

I wonder what period or qtr those stats are from?
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16 Oct 2009   #15

W7 64b - Leopard 10.6.2 - Ubuntu 10.10 (MBP Snow Leopard 10.6.3)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
What is it about people and Apple; why is it that for some reason someone comes up with all these stats about Macs just before Windows releases a new OS. IMO this is all a built up to discredit Windows in anyway possible by those who dislike anything that has to do with Microsoft.

Do I think that Apple will out sell Windows 7 and PC equipped with Windows 7, NO.
You seem to be a little oversensitive on the subject. Just normal business as usual, no big conspiracy against MS.
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16 Oct 2009   #16

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

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In spite of a bleak economy, overall PC sales in the United States are actually finally starting to bounce back a bit, stepping up 2.5 percent from September of 2008 to last month, according to numbers released by the Gartner Group. IDC came up with a slightly higher number of 3.9 percent.

But sales of Apple Macs are up higher, to the tune of 6.8 percent, according to Gartner. IDC paints a rosier picture reporting Apple sales up 11.8 percent.
I'm not trying to diss anyone but I think most of you missed the actual content of the article. The headline is very misleading. Apple is NOT selling more machines than Windows based PCs. Apple's sales have increased at a higher rate than PC sales. PCs up 2.5% and Macs up 6.8%. That means new computer sales are probably still 80% Windows PCs.
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16 Oct 2009   #17

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boris View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
What is it about people and Apple; why is it that for some reason someone comes up with all these stats about Macs just before Windows releases a new OS. IMO this is all a built up to discredit Windows in anyway possible by those who dislike anything that has to do with Microsoft.

Do I think that Apple will out sell Windows 7 and PC equipped with Windows 7, NO.
You seem to be a little oversensitive on the subject. Just normal business as usual, no big conspiracy against MS.
Oh come on ... while I wouldn't call it a "conspiracy," you have to have realized by now that Apple, and the tech blogs that favor them, DO go out of their way to discredit Windows and MS in general.

Engadget, if you recall, had a habit of bashing every little thing MS did for quite a while there. Windows 7 finally ended that, because they would have had to actually lie about it to dig up any significant dirt on it.

Engadget, Gizmodo, and many other blogs that I've read usually play up everything that MS does wrong, and play down everything that Apple does wrong. Sad, but true.
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16 Oct 2009   #18
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Boris,

First: Welcome to the "Seven "Forums".
Second: If you had been on the Forum for any amount of time you would known by my different post that I also run a G5 Power Mac with Leopard installed (it is a six year old machine and won't run Snow Leopard). Also you would know that my first home PC (true PC, not a Commodore) was a Mac Plus (still running).
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16 Oct 2009   #19

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
The US market is apple's strongest so any rise there is less important when dealing with the global situation, (sorry USA ). 6% of virtually nothing is still virtually nothing

In real terms it is probably more likely for an average MAC user to suffer from a virus infection than a PC user, , even though it is admittedly more likely for the PC to be subject to attack.

The average MAC user is totally convinced that they cannot be infected and therefore do not take any precautions, on the PC side it is a known issue and thus it is factored into the set-up. Due to the recent rise in MAC sales they are now becoming a more viable target for malware writers.

This is not meant as an attack on Apple but a statement of my opinion on the facts of this as I see them
You got that one right on the head there! Any experienced Windows user will typically have a multi layered protection inplace while a typical Apple/Mac user would tend to be a little "over confident" the way that FireFox users think FF in invulnerable as a browser. Yet once FF became popular you started hearing reports of trojans there too!

The latest move by MS was the introduction of the Security Essentials which amounts to a system scanner that will point out any bugs found. MS seems to be making the effort to offer at least something for their OS while it's not always a champ in that regard.

MS SpywareRemover followed by the Windows Defender now seeing the SE program. They offer some limited protection for the novice at least.
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18 Oct 2009   #20

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

I guess Steve and his acolytes at Apple made large purchases...
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