Apple Dampens Windows 7 Debut with Stellar Sales, ...

Night Hawk · 18 Oct 2009

"ppsssttt... here's some money.. now go in and buy up all... so we can show higher sales then....."

Boris · 19 Oct 2009

Lee said:

Boris,

First: Welcome to the "Seven "Forums".

Second: If you had been on the Forum for any amount of time you would known by my different post that I also run a G5 Power Mac with Leopard installed (it is a six year old machine and won't run Snow Leopard). Also you would know that my first home PC (true PC, not a Commodore) was a Mac Plus (still running). :)

Thanks for the welcome

If the result form all this (constructive) criticism on MS and competition from Apple is that we (consumers) get a better product, I am not complaining.

As we say in Holland "high trees catch a lot of wind" :)

The past has shown that when left to its own devices MS will not always make decisions that benefit end consumers. People are all excited with the new W7, and rightly so, but they tend to forget the history very fast.

In the end both OS's have their own merits and faults. I just say: the more choice the better!

TeenerTim · 19 Oct 2009

Boris said:

I just say: the more choice the better!

The reality in the software and IT business is that more choices is NOT better. More choices drive prices up because developers have to support more platforms. Companies that allow multiple platforms have higher support costs and that drives the price of their goods up. When everyone screamed that a Microsoft monopoly would rape the public and charge astronomical prices, the exact opposite was true. The cost of most Microsoft products has dramatically gone down. I'm not advocating a monopoly nor am I saying that competition is bad but we are now exiting what will soon become known as the golden years of computing. Decisions were easy, training was easy, and users were generally happy. Look for difficult times ahead with XP shops, Win7 shops, Linux shops, Mac shops, and more. It won't be "better" because of more choices.

fakeasdf · 19 Oct 2009

I'm not sure if any of yall have been part of a startup or not, but if you noticed one of the so called analysts, Gartner. Everyone who's dealt with a startup knows they are a analyst whore. They are paid to say what will reflect nicely on a company.

Boris · 19 Oct 2009

TeenerTim said:

Boris said:

I just say: the more choice the better!

The reality in the software and IT business is that more choices is NOT better. More choices drive prices up because developers have to support more platforms. Companies that allow multiple platforms have higher support costs and that drives the price of their goods up. When everyone screamed that a Microsoft monopoly would rape the public and charge astronomical prices, the exact opposite was true. The cost of most Microsoft products has dramatically gone down. I'm not advocating a monopoly nor am I saying that competition is bad but we are now exiting what will soon become known as the golden years of computing. Decisions were easy, training was easy, and users were generally happy. Look for difficult times ahead with XP shops, Win7 shops, Linux shops, Mac shops, and more. It won't be "better" because of more choices.

All a matter of opinion and perspective. You make valid points, but there are enough arguments to the contrary.

stormy13 · 19 Oct 2009

blackroseMD1 said:

I could never bring myself to pay for specialized hardware with a well known logo.

Except for the Gucci cases, there is no specialized hardware in a Mac (since they went Intel). The only thing "special" about it from the PC version is that all components that can be, have a modded bios on them to lock out the use of anything but a Mac OS.

R0am3r · 19 Oct 2009

A journalist for the Syracuse Post Standard wrote an article for the Sunday paper discussing the merits of Windows 7. The article started out fine, but then the writer [Al Fasoldt] compared the Apple Snow Leopard prices to Windows 7 prices. The Snow Leopard upgrade is nothing more than a service pack. When Microsoft releases their service packs, they give them out for free. How about a little journalistic honesty?

Jordus · 19 Oct 2009

PCworld has been nothing more than apple fanboys for a few years now. Its not even worth reading.

Boris · 19 Oct 2009

R0am3r said:

A journalist for the Syracuse Post Standard wrote an article for the Sunday paper discussing the merits of Windows 7. The article started out fine, but then the writer [Al Fasoldt] compared the Apple Snow Leopard prices to Windows 7 prices. The Snow Leopard upgrade is nothing more than a service pack. When Microsoft releases their service packs, they give them out for free. How about a little journalistic honesty?

Your text describes the whole problem I have with this MS / Apple bickering.
It always starts out with a (bad) comparison between Apple and MS. Than one user gets his feelings hurt and start "flaming" the other brand...

Its a never ending story.

pillainp · 19 Oct 2009

Apple have been dampening things for Windows for quite a few years. I don't see where it has gotten them very far in terms of the marketplace.

They cater to a very niche segment of the marketplace, and that is where they will stay for the foreseeable future, unless they remove their insane markups.

The way I see it, if I were buying into Snow Leopard, I would first need to buy a $1550 Intel Mac-Book Pro, and if it came with Leopard, go out and buy Snow Leopard for a further $29.

For that price, I could get a decent laptop with Win7 (Ultimate no less) and Office, and still have money left for other things.