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Windows 7: W8.1 Preview now available on Technet

27 Jun 2013   #11
Teerex

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1
 
 

Tried it - it is a bit more comfortable, the unified search experience and the All Apps UI - much better that in 8 RTM.

I have pinned down one thing that annoys me as hell with Win 8; consider this scenario - you play videos in a news app which you snap to the side. Or play videos or music. Now, while this is playing you want to run something else. Instead of the Start Screen occupying the rest of the screen, and leaving the media playing - the media stops - news video gets interrupted mid-sentence. In Windows 7 it plays on and on, and you can start a zillion other applications without media getting interrupted.

There are some media glitches across media apps and Ie and visual artifacts in IE, but it is a Preview after all...


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27 Jun 2013   #12
meebers

Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
 
 

I have W8 installed now, not much of a fan but will probably install 8.1 when it is offered. Question is, can I back out 8.1 if it is really a tu--? W7 is the one I use for serious stuff.
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27 Jun 2013   #13
cyclic

Windows 7 home premium x64
 
 

Thanks for the link, don't think I'll like it but with my main hobby I need to have a copy for familiarization, can't convince everyone to use W7!
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27 Jun 2013   #14
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Teerex View Post
Tried it - it is a bit more comfortable, the unified search experience and the All Apps UI - much better that in 8 RTM.

I have pinned down one thing that annoys me as hell with Win 8; consider this scenario - you play videos in a news app which you snap to the side. Or play videos or music. Now, while this is playing you want to run something else. Instead of the Start Screen occupying the rest of the screen, and leaving the media playing - the media stops - news video gets interrupted mid-sentence. In Windows 7 it plays on and on, and you can start a zillion other applications without media getting interrupted.

There are some media glitches across media apps and Ie and visual artifacts in IE, but it is a Preview after all...
So stop using Metro apps and run whatever app you used in Win 7! I don't use ANY Metro apps and Win 8 works great for me.
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27 Jun 2013   #15
Joan Archer

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 10 64bit
 
 

I'll wait a bit longer before I try it, I'm mainly using my Windows 8 Notebook now and I'll still use it when the updates installed. I've still got my Windows 7 desktop when I need it but I like Windows 8 and look forward to seeing what they've done with the update. I've never installed 3rd party apps and never actually missed the Start button.
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28 Jun 2013   #16
vaidas3

Windows 7 pro 64bit. (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Teerex View Post
Tried it - it is a bit more comfortable, the unified search experience and the All Apps UI - much better that in 8 RTM.

I have pinned down one thing that annoys me as hell with Win 8; consider this scenario - you play videos in a news app which you snap to the side. Or play videos or music. Now, while this is playing you want to run something else. Instead of the Start Screen occupying the rest of the screen, and leaving the media playing - the media stops - news video gets interrupted mid-sentence. In Windows 7 it plays on and on, and you can start a zillion other applications without media getting interrupted.

There are some media glitches across media apps and Ie and visual artifacts in IE, but it is a Preview after all...

windows 8 and 8.1 focus on single tasking at best double tasking when windows prior to that focus on multitasking. its like back to MS-DOS focus on single task, full screen no windows. tasks stops or pauses when you open another task.
I use windows 8 on my main home desktop and laptop.. but only in desktop mode and I avoid metro like fire.. I have 3rd party start menu with boot to desktop and disable hot corners option on.

to me windows 8.1 actually is worse than windows 8 .. because its not compatible with my 3rd party start menu (is MS doing this on purpose? they removed registry fix that would bring start menu back, from RTM windows 8 that was available in early builds of windows 8). even more things moving to metro and cloud less focus on desktop where spend 99.99% of my time when I use windows8.

if world is actually moving to tablets and mobile touch devices (as MS believes), then I will go for android. windows is best where it belongs on pc with keyboard and mouse... at least it was.
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28 Jun 2013   #17
Wenda

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit; Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (VM).
 
 

From a post of mine on EightForums...

"I've seen enough to know that it's nothing like what it should (and could) have been.

There's simply nothing there for me. As a desktop user who likes to create, not consume, and has no interest in social media or 'cloud computing', it's a waste of time, money (yes, I know it's free, but my time surely isn't) and effort to even bother with it.

At best, it might go into my VM-based OS collection as a curiosity, but it won't be becoming my primary OS. I'll go over to one of my Linux distros first, or else simply stay on Win 7/8. Heck, I'd even go back to Vista in preference... But I have no need or use for such a blatantly net-centric OS. They tried that in W98 with their much-maligned 'integrated desktop'. This is the same rubbish, just dragged into the 21st century, and I want it as much now as I did then, ie, not at all.""

Unless I specifically tell it to, I do not want my OS tied to or communicating with the internet at all. And I do not want to have to disable 1001 options to achieve this. 8.1 is a fail, IMO. Far inferior to my customised Win 8... go figure.



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28 Jun 2013   #18
Gary

Win 10 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by meebers View Post
I have W8 installed now, not much of a fan but will probably install 8.1 when it is offered. Question is, can I back out 8.1 if it is really a tu--? W7 is the one I use for serious stuff.
No!

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Important
If you decide that you want to install Windows 8.1 Preview using the ISO, you won't be able to uninstall it. If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it using the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you're running Windows 8 and you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create a USB recovery drive. If you're running Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP and you don’t have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer’s website for more information. After you install Windows 8.1 Preview, you won’t be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows.
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I posted this before but it vanished.
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28 Jun 2013   #19
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
From a post of mine on EightForums...

"I've seen enough to know that it's nothing like what it should (and could) have been.

There's simply nothing there for me. As a desktop user who likes to create, not consume, and has no interest in social media or 'cloud computing', it's a waste of time, money (yes, I know it's free, but my time surely isn't) and effort to even bother with it.

At best, it might go into my VM-based OS collection as a curiosity, but it won't be becoming my primary OS. I'll go over to one of my Linux distros first, or else simply stay on Win 7/8. Heck, I'd even go back to Vista in preference... But I have no need or use for such a blatantly net-centric OS. They tried that in W98 with their much-maligned 'integrated desktop'. This is the same rubbish, just dragged into the 21st century, and I want it as much now as I did then, ie, not at all.""

Unless I specifically tell it to, I do not want my OS tied to or communicating with the internet at all. And I do not want to have to disable 1001 options to achieve this. 8.1 is a fail, IMO. Far inferior to my customised Win 8... go figure.



Wenda.
Hi there
I'm afraid the idea of NOT communicating with the Internet unless you specifically request it is likely to be a wish of about 3 people on this planet (Home users -- work users have other controls anyway)-- it's easy enough to restrict access -- just set your browser to use a proxy (your own) which doesn't connect with the internet until you enable it.

Some applications have a nasty habit too of "Phoning Home" regularly -- so it's not always the fault of Ms.

These applications that "Phone Home" are not only confined to W 8 -- loads did this on W7 -- Adobe Photoshop for example.

Cheers
jimbo
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28 Jun 2013   #20
meebers

Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gary View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by meebers View Post
I have W8 installed now, not much of a fan but will probably install 8.1 when it is offered. Question is, can I back out 8.1 if it is really a tu--? W7 is the one I use for serious stuff.
No!

Quote:
Important
If you decide that you want to install Windows 8.1 Preview using the ISO, you won't be able to uninstall it. If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it using the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you're running Windows 8 and you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create a USB recovery drive. If you're running Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP and you don’t have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer’s website for more information. After you install Windows 8.1 Preview, you won’t be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows.
Source

I posted this before but it vanished.
I am not talking about the preview, but the final released version of 8.1. Can I uninstall it and go back to W8. W8 is the only system on the computer I am talking about. I keep a clone of W8 up to date.
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