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Windows 7: IE11 Release Preview for Windows 7 Now Available

27 Sep 2013   #91
DreadStarX

Windows 8 64bit Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Well I do understand this is basically a beta, and as you noted, expect to see bugs. That's part of using a preview program... to preview it, see if there are any issues, and report back to the developer.

The part that most people forget is the report step, and instead just complain it doesn't work
The onus is on the developer to make it easy to report bugs though.

For example, a while ago (2011?) I discovered something weird about the way Firefox implemented CSS (this wasn't a beta either, it was the actual release version).
A certain style would only work if it was included in the HTML tag, or an external stylesheet.
It would not work if it was included in the head section.

I couldn't report it directly to Mozilla (all bug reports had to be funneled through a Google account).
Since I didn't have such an account, or wish to create one, I didn't report it.

I'm still spewing because I was forced to create a Google account for my TAFE course (a couple of months ago).
Next time, ask someone who has one. I have no problem submitting something like that, that will help other computer developers, like myself. And correct me if I'm wrong, but did that even get fixed?


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27 Sep 2013   #92
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Well I do understand this is basically a beta, and as you noted, expect to see bugs. That's part of using a preview program... to preview it, see if there are any issues, and report back to the developer.

The part that most people forget is the report step, and instead just complain it doesn't work
The onus is on the developer to make it easy to report bugs though.

For example, a while ago (2011?) I discovered something weird about the way Firefox implemented CSS (this wasn't a beta either, it was the actual release version).
A certain style would only work if it was included in the HTML tag, or an external stylesheet.
It would not work if it was included in the head section.

I couldn't report it directly to Mozilla (all bug reports had to be funneled through a Google account).
Since I didn't have such an account, or wish to create one, I didn't report it.

I'm still spewing because I was forced to create a Google account for my TAFE course (a couple of months ago).
Sorry but that's on you. If you don't want to do what it takes to participate in a beta program, to include making reports, I fail to see how that's the developer's fault

Anyway for Internet Explorer (including IE11) - Internet Explorer Feedback | Microsoft Connect. Yes, you need to register to participate, but didn't you have to do that here?
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27 Sep 2013   #93
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DreadStarX View Post
Next time, ask someone who has one. I have no problem submitting something like that, that will help other computer developers, like myself. And correct me if I'm wrong, but did that even get fixed?
Most of my associates hate Google and they refuse to sign up for their "free services".

I have no idea whether it got fixed.
IIRC, it was a simple XHTML exercise (for my TAFE course) involving link colours.
I alerted the lecturer, so there were no problems as far as the course was concerned.

Ironically it worked perfectly in IE (IE8?).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Sorry but that's on you. If you don't want to do what it takes to participate in a beta program, to include making reports, I fail to see how that's the developer's fault
It wasn't a beta, it was an actual release!

If a developer (e.g. Mozilla) wants feedback, then a user should be able to send it to them directly, not via "Stalker International".

If I want to send a report to a company (e.g. Microsoft), I don't expect that I need to sign up to Google to do it!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Yes, you need to register to participate, but didn't you have to do that here?
The difference being that I was asking for help from the members of SevenForums, not complaining about bugs.
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27 Sep 2013   #94
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Sorry but that's on you. If you don't want to do what it takes to participate in a beta program, to include making reports, I fail to see how that's the developer's fault
It wasn't a beta, it was an actual release!

If a developer (e.g. Mozilla) wants feedback, then a user should be able to send it to them directly, not via "Stalker International".

If I want to send a report to a company (e.g. Microsoft), I don't expect that I need to sign up to Google to do it!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Yes, you need to register to participate, but didn't you have to do that here?
The difference being that I was asking for help from the members of SevenForums, not complaining about bugs.
Let me see.... this thread is about.... IE11.... a preview (aka beta) program

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about beta software here
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27 Sep 2013   #95
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Let me see.... this thread is about.... IE11.... a preview (aka beta) program

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about beta software here
I thought people read/spoke English (the US version) in Virginia.

My original point (post #90) was, if you want feedback you have to make it easy for people to give it.
I used Firefox as an example, because they made it more difficult than necessary to report issues.
Thus:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
For example, a while ago (2011?) ...
Interestingly enough, when I was testing FF alphas they had two buttons that you could use to give feedback (i.e. it was easy to give feedback).

As for IE11, I'm reading this thread to see what people think about it.
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28 Sep 2013   #96
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I submitted feedback without any iota on my findings so far. When signing up it only takes a minute and you are not required to fill in your life story just the basics not even the town, city, or state you live in.

(gee had to use a different display name to sign up this time since the one I would have used was already in use for some reason. I wonder where? hhmmm... )
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29 Sep 2013   #97
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
I submitted feedback without any iota on my findings so far. When signing up it only takes a minute and you are not required to fill in your life story just the basics not even the town, city, or state you live in.
Sounds like they want feedback.
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29 Sep 2013   #98
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
I submitted feedback without any iota on my findings so far. When signing up it only takes a minute and you are not required to fill in your life story just the basics not even the town, city, or state you live in.
Sounds like they want feedback.
Feedback is something any developer will want to hear. At first it seem a bit awkward trying to figure out how to get in on it but it's not. The layouts for each site could be made to show how it easy it is however. In that area every site I've participated always seems to be lacking.

In the feedback options seen you can enter either the positive results or the errors you have an encountered and then select the type of subject for the circumstance such as installation, performance, etc.(required selection). And then in the second text window the question of what is expected is asked where you can fill that in as well. For me I noted besides security being a factor with any new browser the things I expected were reliability and stability placing performance on the back burner since if the browser doesn't work it won't matter how fast it is!
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04 Oct 2013   #99
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 
Fixed!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
OK, I found an issue. On Microsoft's Dream Spark website, IE11 isn't working properly. While I can log in and pick a product, I can't add them to my shopping cart for download. Clicking the "Add to cart" does nothing.

On my Windows 8 machine with IE10, everything works right and I was able to download the product I wanted.

Anyway this is the only non working issue I've found thus far. Strange this is happening with a MS website though

Attachment 287149
Fixed!

Had to add site to "Compatibility View"

Tools, click Compatibility View Settings, and add the troublesome website...

IE11 Release Preview for Windows 7 Now Available-ie11-compatibility-view.jpg


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05 Oct 2013   #100
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Always something right? All it takes is one little thing to trip you up at times! But at least you now know where the hold up was.
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