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Windows 7: Microsoft Windows 8.2 Scheduled For January 2014

13 Dec 2013   #41

Dual Boot: Windows 7 Pro & Server 2012r2 VMs: Kali Linux, Backbox, Matriux, Windows 8.1
 
 

I'd be willing to bet Microsoft will simply be forced to extend support for Windows 7 unless they go back to a true desktop OS. Not everyone will want to change to 8 or whatever tablet inspired OS they have out at that time.

XP might even get extended if they get enough pressure as it gets closer to the EOL. China is asking MS for an extension on XP and they also want Windows 7 starter back. Sooner or later I think they give in.

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13 Dec 2013   #42

Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon | Win 7 Ult x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by vaidas3 View Post
Is Linux version of VLC better than windows?
Since the announcement of Microsoft Bricks 8.1 I migrated most of my PCs to Linux Mint Cinnamon.

I run VLC and have had no problems playing any media file (and I have many). MP4, MKV, AVI, etc...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by vaidas3 View Post
And there is still gaming that Linux loses to windows quite bad.
Steam is also available for Linux. It's a little more complex to set up than on Windows, but once you get it working, and install the drivers specific to your graphics card, for the most part I've had no problems.

Gaming has come along way, but you are right, gaming still has a ways to go.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by vaidas3 View Post
Linux made far to be home user friendly but its still quite far from windows.
I don't know about that. I evaluated several versions of Linux before I settled on a Distro. Ones like Slackware for sure are far from Windows, and can be complex. But there are several distro's out there that, as was previously stated are more "windows" than Microsoft's latest bricks incarnation.

For networking, media, browsing, email, office type applications (excel, word, etc), and some media encoding work, I have not had any difficulties whatsoever with Mint.

I have an I7-3770K with 32GB ram, an SSD and Spinner, 2 optical drives, on a Z77 mobo, and it runs perfectly. Haven't had a single failure.

So, as Jimbo said, Linux has come a long way.

Just my 10 cents worth
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01 Jan 2014   #43

Windows 7
 
 

That's great. I would look forward to it.
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02 Jan 2014   #44

Windows 7 pro 64bit. (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
Since the announcement of Microsoft Bricks 8.1 I migrated most of my PCs to Linux Mint Cinnamon.

I run VLC and have had no problems playing any media file (and I have many). MP4, MKV, AVI, etc...
Hmm.. interesting, well everyone experiences may vary... to me VLC is quite bad player, I had lots of problems with it.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
Steam is also available for Linux. It's a little more complex to set up than on Windows, but once you get it working, and install the drivers specific to your graphics card, for the most part I've had no problems.
Gaming has come along way, but you are right, gaming still has a ways to go.
Steam is not a game, just platform to DRM, buy and organize your games.. When I can, I avoid steam and buy games without it for example from GOG. Linux support for games is increasing but still there is many windows only games that I like and play.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
I don't know about that. I evaluated several versions of Linux before I settled on a Distro. Ones like Slackware for sure are far from Windows, and can be complex. But there are several distro's out there that, as was previously stated are more "windows" than Microsoft's latest bricks incarnation.

For networking, media, browsing, email, office type applications (excel, word, etc), and some media encoding work, I have not had any difficulties whatsoever with Mint.

I have an I7-3770K with 32GB ram, an SSD and Spinner, 2 optical drives, on a Z77 mobo, and it runs perfectly. Haven't had a single failure.

So, as Jimbo said, Linux has come a long way.

Just my 10 cents worth
I agree Linux has come a long way... I never said otherwise.
but still IMHO it has some ways to go.
Just my 2 cents.
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02 Jan 2014   #45

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
If MS actually listened to it's customers feed back from the get go, - actually released a 'beta' with the intent on listening to feedback rather than just "doing it their way regardless" and releasing "Previews" whilst still ignoring feedback - they wouldn't be in this ridiculous mess they are now. They listened a bit with Seven's development. Official betas and non official. With 8 they completely ignored all consumer feedback

What a flap up of major proportions.

It's the consumer who should dictate major product features. Not some executives with a "vision"


Be about time they listened to somebody for a change, like asking us what we want instead of telling us what they want us to want.
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03 Jan 2014   #46

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dallas 7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
If MS actually listened to it's customers feed back from the get go, - actually released a 'beta' with the intent on listening to feedback rather than just "doing it their way regardless" and releasing "Previews" whilst still ignoring feedback - they wouldn't be in this ridiculous mess they are now. They listened a bit with Seven's development. Official betas and non official. With 8 they completely ignored all consumer feedback

What a flap up of major proportions.

It's the consumer who should dictate major product features. Not some executives with a "vision"
Be about time they listened to somebody for a change, like asking us what we want instead of telling us what they want us to want.
Just to chime in for a minute...

If companies exclusively did this there would be no progress (advancement in technology); Why? People hate change.

I do however agree companies should take people's concerns into consideration.... but not to the point of being stagnated.

There are many technologies we never knew we wanted or needed until they showed up.

My two cents.
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03 Jan 2014   #47

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dallas 7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
If MS actually listened to it's customers feed back from the get go, - actually released a 'beta' with the intent on listening to feedback rather than just "doing it their way regardless" and releasing "Previews" whilst still ignoring feedback - they wouldn't be in this ridiculous mess they are now. They listened a bit with Seven's development. Official betas and non official. With 8 they completely ignored all consumer feedback

What a flap up of major proportions.

It's the consumer who should dictate major product features. Not some executives with a "vision"
Be about time they listened to somebody for a change, like asking us what we want instead of telling us what they want us to want.
Just to chime in for a minute...

If companies exclusively did this there would be no progress (advancement in technology); Why? People hate change.

I do however agree companies should take people's concerns into consideration.... but not to the point of being stagnated.

There are many technologies we never knew we wanted or needed until they showed up.

My two cents.
Change just for change's sake is rarely good. I have no issue with change as long as it benefits me. Rapid change, like M$ is doing with Win 8, is always expensive, especially for businesses.
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03 Jan 2014   #48

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Change just for change's sake is rarely good. I have no issue with change as long as it benefits me. Rapid change, like M$ is doing with Win 8, is always expensive, especially for businesses.
Therein lays the problem... some don't see the need for change, while others welcome it.... even if they never knew they wanted or needed it.

Anyway, going in another direction... if you understand SDLC - (Systems Development Life Cycle) you'd understand no company rushes out to upgrade anything without extensive research and review. Just willy nilly jumping on the newest tech out is both inefficient and not very cost effective. This is why companies gradually and slowly update their tech... to include OS's.

Unless there's a real need to upgrade to Win 8 immediately, most companies will use what they have until that need arises. This happens with every OS, not just Win 8. And trust me, Microsoft understands that.

But while big business is slow to adapt, small business or personal users aren't. And in the end they will become the test bed for improvements and so forth, and by the time all that's worked out and big business decides to move to 8, the next OS will be released.

It's simply the way it works, and will continue to work. This is no different than what happened from 98-XP-Win 7-Win 8/8.1 to the next OS.

People don't like change, and change can be costly.

My two cents.
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03 Jan 2014   #49

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21;2644849...Anyway, going in another direction... if you understand SDLC - ([URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_development_life-cycle"
Systems Development Life Cycle[/URL]) you'd understand no company rushes out to upgrade anything without extensive research and review. Just willy nilly jumping on the newest tech out is both inefficient and not very cost effective. This is why companies gradually and slowly update their tech... to include OS's.

Unless there's a real need to upgrade to Win 8 immediately, most companies will use what they have until that need arises. This happens with every OS, not just Win 8. And trust me, Microsoft understands that.

But while big business is slow to adapt, small business or personal users aren't. And in the end they will become the test bed for improvements and so forth, and by the time all that's worked out and big business decides to move to 8, the next OS will be released...
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03 Jan 2014   #50

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21;2644849...Anyway, going in another direction... if you understand SDLC - ([URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_development_life-cycle"
Systems Development Life Cycle[/URL]) you'd understand no company rushes out to upgrade anything without extensive research and review. Just willy nilly jumping on the newest tech out is both inefficient and not very cost effective. This is why companies gradually and slowly update their tech... to include OS's.

Unless there's a real need to upgrade to Win 8 immediately, most companies will use what they have until that need arises. This happens with every OS, not just Win 8. And trust me, Microsoft understands that.

But while big business is slow to adapt, small business or personal users aren't. And in the end they will become the test bed for improvements and so forth, and by the time all that's worked out and big business decides to move to 8, the next OS will be released...
I'm glad you understand
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