Windows designer explains why Windows 8 is such a mess
Windows designer explains why Windows 8 is such a mess
Posted: 18 Feb 2014
Windows designer explains why Windows 8 is such a mess
...Jacob Miller, who recently took to Reddit to explain why Microsoft made a lot of the design choices it did with Windows 8, including the original decision to make the Metro UI the default boot-up screen. What emerges is a portrait of a company trying its best to please two different audiences by trying to make two completely different operating systems and stapling them together.
Metro is a content consumption space,” he explains. “It is designed for casual users who only want to check facebook, view some photos, and maybe post a selfie to instagram. It’s designed for your computer illiterate little sister, for grandpas who don’t know how to use that computer dofangle thingy, and for mom who just wants to look up apple pie recipes. It’s simple, clear, and does one thing (and only one thing) relatively easily. That is what Metro is. It is the antithesis of a power user
Such a big misstatement, especially the "simple, clear" part.
UPDATE: Microsoft checks in to say that while it welcomes Miller expressing his opinion, it doesn’t at all represent Microsoft’s own views on Windows 8.
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Miller goes on to explain that the Metro UI is actually a good thing for power users, however, because it will let Microsoft add a lot more features for them in the desktop mode while keeping the Metro screen separate for all of the computer illiterates out there.
On the contrary, with it being no secret that Microsoft wants to kill off Win32 and start anew (WinRT), the only impression I've been getting is that they want to kill off Desktop, not improve it.
I don't believe Microsoft wants to kill off Desktops.
Why would they when they have over a BILLION of them using their operating systems.
They are just trying to satisfy the growing crowd of Ding Dong and Dippy Do's to make it work like a damn cell phone. Microsoft seem to think a Billion plus desktop users won't notice or care. WRONG
I do think the new management will sooner or later figure out that a choice for consumers is what is needed.
Throwing away a billion customers they already have away to gather another billion customers doesn't add up.
Why not have a choice so Microsoft can keep the billion customers they have plus add the new up coming customers.
I surly don't understand why Microsoft can't understand that method.
It's kind of like mobile device compared to Desktops.
The consumer can choose which device they desire or need. Or they can choose both. Their is probably some that will choose neither; but their is a choice.
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IT does seem to me they are very much trying to push people to the "poke and punch" devices, effectively trying to kill the desktop computer.
w7 does support touch screens if it's enabled. Let those who want it have to opt-in to it instead of real computer users having to opt-in to a normal desktop.
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Metro is a content consumption space,” he explains. “It is designed for casual users who only want to check facebook, view some photos, and maybe post a selfie to instagram. It’s designed for your computer illiterate little sister, for grandpas who don’t know how to use that computer dofangle thingy, and for mom who just wants to look up apple pie recipes. It’s simple, clear, and does one thing (and only one thing) relatively easily. That is what Metro is. It is the antithesis of a power user
Yes, it does one thing relatively easily: pi$$ off users.
Sounds rather condescending to me, almost as if M$ considered the average user unable or unwilling to learn to use a computer properly, so they decided to dumb it down.
Sounds rather condescending to me, almost as if M$ considered the average user unable or unwilling to learn to use a computer properly, so they decided to dumb it down.
While I don't know about being unable, there certainly are users out there that are unwilling to use a computer "properly".
My father is relatively comfortable with using computers, he even makes heads and tails of Windows 8, but he's still sharply in the camp of "100% Plug & Play or I'm going elsewhere". A lot of things come naturally to us power users, but the reality of the world is that even something as small as configuring just one data field is one hassle too many for many users.
No one has to be a computer wiz to use Windows 7.
Most user don't get as involved as many on this forum but will be able to do all the normal things with just a little effort.
Email, watching movies, listening to music, search the internet ect.
They will never get into things like changing permission on a program or using Disk Management and other things like that.
You don't have to be a Brink to use Windows 7. I'm living proof of that.
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"Metro is a content consumption space," he explains. It’s designed for your computer illiterate little sister, for grandpas who don’t know how to use that computer dofangle thingy, and for mom who just wants to look up apple pie recipes.
That is exactly what the tablets are made for - consumption and not for serious work. It is interesting to hear that Metro was designed for the same purpose. Unfortunately it blew up in their face - they should have known better.
UPDATE: Microsoft checks in to say that while it welcomes Miller expressing his opinion, it doesn’t at all represent Microsoft’s own views on Windows 8.
And MS still does not want to listen. The would have done better to shut up.
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