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Windows 7: Microsoft Can't Sell Windows 8, So It's Giving It Away

06 Mar 2014   #21
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jonguy30 View Post
Doesn't classic shell and other windows 8 "start menus" get rid of metro completely?
You would be wrong. Yes, you get a Start menu (of varying quality depending on the program used) and possibly an option to skip Metro on boot, but you still need to go into the Metro side of things for things such rudimentary things as changing your user account's password, choosing what network to connect to, and so forth.


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06 Mar 2014   #22
nobodyspecial

Windows
 
 

calling it windows 8 very deceptive practice should be called windows tablet edition 1 and 8.1 should be called tablet edition 1.1 or 2 if they want to increase sales by use of a higher number ( higher number =/= better ) but you catch my drift
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06 Mar 2014   #23
computergeekguy

7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I had windows 8. Had being the key word. I couldn't figure out how to get into the bois. Apparently was done from the operating system. That was weird. There was probably a way to get there before the os but all my standard F2 ESC F8 and any other button i could think of didn't work.

Also I tried to upgrade to windows 8.1. So you go to the windows store app. It never showed up. Windows said try installing updates. I told Microsoft I did TRY to install updates. It sat there at 0% for hours and never did anything.

Later i turned it on and just let it sit there for a day. It finally worked. It turns out it was doing something even though it was at 0%. So im thinking to myself COME ON!!! IS THE PROGRAMMING IN THIS OS THAT BAD!!! Than it gave me the unhappy face BSOD. Yup.

The last straw was when i was expected to buy everything that SHOULD have come with it. You want windows media player? Well $10 please. Plus many of the programs i was trying to run on it were INCOMPATIBLE.

I know many people who said give it a chance. I did. But i never had to give windows 7 a chance did i? It worked from the beginning. Now you can get free Windows H8 upgrade from wonderful windows 7. You see I paid $100 for windows 7 to get away from 8. Why would I go back? Even windows 7 blue screens are better .

O well thats my rant
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06 Mar 2014   #24
Gary

Win 10 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Nah, You need not use the cloud. And Bing is OK - or install Chrome.
I would install Firefox or Pale Moon before Chrome.
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06 Mar 2014   #25
3D Jed

Windows 7 pro x64 SP1
 
 

When they've coerced us all to migrate to W8, they'll disable WMC. No TV on your pc ? - hey buy movies etc from MS. WMC is being phased out IMHO. Anyone remember when they turned off WMC EPG about a year or so ago ? Probably a test run for shut down. WMC is already a paid for extra for W8. Separating it from the OS makes it easier to get rid of. Shame, it's one of the best things MS have produced.

Windows - used to be an OS, now a shop.
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06 Mar 2014   #26
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

WindowsXP and Windows7 are here to stay forever.

The reason, perhaps, because has remained the way of interacting with the system(W95, to W7).
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06 Mar 2014   #27
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 3D Jed View Post
When they've coerced us all to migrate to W8, they'll disable WMC. No TV on your pc ? - hey buy movies etc from MS. WMC is being phased out IMHO. Anyone remember when they turned off WMC EPG about a year or so ago ? Probably a test run for shut down. WMC is already a paid for extra for W8. Separating it from the OS makes it easier to get rid of. Shame, it's one of the best things MS have produced.

Windows - used to be an OS, now a shop.
I certainly don't miss WMC, thought it was a joke of an app anyway. It is probably the clunkiest piece of software I've ever used.
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06 Mar 2014   #28
gregrocker

 

The best 8 start menu I've found is Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8 which only works on 8 and not 8.1 the last I checked. SIW2 may know better since he knows most of these developers.

That particular Ate start menu grafts on the actual Win7 Start menu from it's disk, however this does not replace the functions which 8 has restricted to Metro, including most of the crApps which must each be reset from default to WMP, your Reader, Windows Picture viewer, etc. So giving a friend that Start menu is a favor, until they start calling to replace every crApp that pops up (and can't be closed).

The solution as always is to upgrade to Win7. The horrific part of this is that MS never paused to realize they had created the best OS ever in Win7. When I would mention this to them at Summits I would get a blank stare and reminder that "we're moving on." I deeply regret that more MVP's did not speak up but we were ashamedly cowed by blunt insistence that our input wasn't wanted on Ate. When we finally did speak up after top forums' producers were invited into a Focus Group at November's Summit, they agreed with our blunt assessments but inferred it is too late.

So the new campaign asking customers to "be brave" to buy their products has a double meaning to me. I show how big my brave is now but it is too late. Nevertheless we have an even more important mission as its defenders here at the home of Win7, which just happens to be the top tech forum on the web in history.

▶ Sara Bareilles - Brave - YouTube
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06 Mar 2014   #29
MrWhoopee

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 and x64
 
 

I believe that Win 8 opens the door for more people to switch to Macs. If they're going to have to learn a new UI, might as well be one that gets good reviews. The only saving factor (for M$) is that most of the new purchasers don't realize what they're getting into until it's too late. Almost every 8 machine I work on gets Classic Shell installed, to the great relief of the owner.
Running Windows in general is like living in a town where they rename the streets every 3-4 years. If you're familiar with the streets, the name changes are not a problem, you can still get where you're going. In Windows 8 they MOVED the damn streets!
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06 Mar 2014   #30
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I believe that Win 8 opens the door for more people to switch to Macs
Absolutely, I know only 1 person who had to buy a new PC because his old ME system was really dated - and he bought a Mac. He got scared of 8 although I kept telling him that 8 is not all that bad.

So my statistical sample says that all sampled users buy Macs, LOL.
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