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Windows 7: UK Government Pays For Extended XP Support

08 Apr 2014   #11
kado897

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I suppose the real question is if M$ fixes it for the payers will they roll out the fixes to everyone else?


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08 Apr 2014   #12
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
I suppose the real question is if M$ fixes it for the payers will they roll out the fixes to everyone else?
I would be very suprised if they did this - what we have here is a private contract between two business entities, and it is likely that they would be subject to various confidentiality and non-disclosure agreements.

Though with the security history of the UK government, it's quite possible that leaks will occur
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08 Apr 2014   #13
King Arthur

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Who would want to work on a single 17"screen with 1 GB RAM and single core CPU?
Depending on the task that is more than substantially adequate to get the job done. Besides, workers are to some extent a dime a dozen; if one guy doesn't want to work with older hardware then there is always the next guy in line.
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08 Apr 2014   #14
HerrKaLeun

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Who would want to work on a single 17"screen with 1 GB RAM and single core CPU?
Depending on the task that is more than substantially adequate to get the job done. Besides, workers are to some extent a dime a dozen; if one guy doesn't want to work with older hardware then there is always the next guy in line.
Not sure where you live and work, but it is pretty hard to find good people and you don't want to annoy them to save $100 on a PC, and you don't want to waste their paid time. billable time is $100 or so... so you do the math if an engineer has to fiddle with one 17"monitor and a slow PC if that really saves the company money....
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09 Apr 2014   #15
kado897

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Who would want to work on a single 17"screen with 1 GB RAM and single core CPU?
Depending on the task that is more than substantially adequate to get the job done. Besides, workers are to some extent a dime a dozen; if one guy doesn't want to work with older hardware then there is always the next guy in line.
Not sure where you live and work, but it is pretty hard to find good people and you don't want to annoy them to save $100 on a PC, and you don't want to waste their paid time. billable time is $100 or so... so you do the math if an engineer has to fiddle with one 17"monitor and a slow PC if that really saves the company money....
Different budgets.
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09 Apr 2014   #16
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Who would want to work on a single 17"screen with 1 GB RAM and single core CPU?
Depending on the task that is more than substantially adequate to get the job done. Besides, workers are to some extent a dime a dozen; if one guy doesn't want to work with older hardware then there is always the next guy in line.
Not sure where you live and work, but it is pretty hard to find good people and you don't want to annoy them to save $100 on a PC, and you don't want to waste their paid time. billable time is $100 or so... so you do the math if an engineer has to fiddle with one 17"monitor and a slow PC if that really saves the company money....
What I was trying to say was that more elementary things such as emails and spreadsheets and other basic office work can be done without requiring a powerhouse. You don't need a quad-core with 8GB of RAM to do word processing, after all, especially if what you have already is perfectly fine as far as getting work done.
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09 Apr 2014   #17
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
My experience of I.T in large organisations in over 30 years is that Management NEVER understands the savings made by quick response time and decent hardware. They only look at the cost of the hardware and NOT the people operating it.

It would probably take me at LEAST 3 times longer to do even a fairly simple piece of work using an old PC and XP compared to a fast modern PC running Windows 7 (or even 8.1).

Baring in mind that say my billing is typically around 100 EUR an hr (seems the "norm" for European contracts these days) and the cost of new equipment is say 700 EUR -- you can see it doesn't take long for the outlay to be recouped easily in productivity.

What happens is though the new PC etc is CAPITAL Cost in "Real Money" which goes on some lower level managers budget whereas my Fees are routed usually through purchasing / HR / Finance depts. which are another part of the organisation

The lower level manager THINKS he's appearing good because he's (or she's) kept or reduced HIS/HER BUDGET. - Like Blinkered Horses they can't see beyond their small part of the organisation.

It's not only Govt. depts --even quite large successful firms are guilty of this at times

Even if the employee cost is a bit lower than 100 EUR / hr then it still won't take much longer to recoup the money.

This is the CLASSIC article about fast response time written back in 1982 by IBM - mainframes were king back then but the article is no less valid today. !!!

IBM: The Economic Value of Rapid Response Time

Perhaps also too many modern managers - when they are trained at all use THIS too much to evaluate their strategy.

Mathematicians call the process as following a "Greedy Algorithm" - have fun on reading the article. !!

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definit...gorithm_mrouse

Cheers
jimbo
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