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Windows 7: New Microsoft VP consigns the PC to irrelevance

14 May 2014   #101
Anshad Edavana

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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No wonder MS is itself becoming irrelevant. MS is making Linux look a lot better.
Honestly speaking, i absolutely hate Ubuntu "Unity" and new "KDE" interface of Fedora. They are not any better than "Windows 8" tile interface. Fortunately, Mint with Mate desktop is still available.


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14 May 2014   #102
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anshad Edavana View Post
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No wonder MS is itself becoming irrelevant. MS is making Linux look a lot better.
Honestly speaking, i absolutely hate Ubuntu "Unity" and new "KDE" interface of Fedora. They are not any better than "Windows 8" tile interface. Fortunately, Mint with Mate desktop is still available.
Hi there

Linux and its desktop GUI's comes in as many flavours as there are of those delicious curries etc you find on the sub continent -

What's good for one is hideous for somebody else -- that's both its weakness and its strength at the same time -- but I prefer being able to choose the GUI rather than have a single "bog standard" version like windows. This choice however isn't perhaps suitable for corporate enterprises who really need some sort of standardisation / common interface but nothing wrong for Individuals.

These days with plug'n'play and excellent hardware support there isn't a whole lot that Windows can do exclusively although for Linux you have to search a bit to find a decent alternative - and some Windows programs do run on "WINE" without having windows installed. Security is also better to even on the most basic Linux systems.

Still back to the point -- for the first time for ages laptop sales have started to improve again - of course they'll never go back to what they used to be - we all get different digital delivery systems instead of on a single device these days - but some who hoped that a tablet could completely make their PC redundant have been a bit disappointed.

(Things like the SURFACE which when it has a keyboard / mouse attached is really a PC !! nothing wrong IMO with "convertibles" which is perhaps where the market should have gone to in the first place).

Also please tablet and PC makers introduce SCREEN MIRRORING on your next versions -- IMO much more useful than touch and very good for wirelessly connecting to smart TV's etc in conference rooms / remote TV's at home - beats blue tooth also hands down. Mobile phones do this already so the hardware cost should be trivial.

Screen Mirroring is really great for conferences / presentations -- saves messing up with cables / VGA / HDMI cables etc etc.

Cheers
jimbo
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14 May 2014   #103
McRuff

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
HI there

Office 20010 runs on WINE I've got it running 99% OK on OPENSUSE 13.1 -- and will try Linux Mate -- I'm holding off Linux Mate because a new release is just in the offing (end of may) - and once I use an OS as a desktop I don't want to have to make "unpredictable" changes.
Jimbo I take it you are talking about Mint 17? Have you considered the Debian Version

Download - Linux Mint

Being semi rolling you do not need to keep downloading a new DVD every time they update it. And it comes in a Mate version, though it only takes a few minutes to download the other desktops if you want to play with them.
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14 May 2014   #104
bawldiggle

XP/7x32 & x64/8x64/8.1x64
 
 

Mint-Mate has been suggested on various discussuion threads through this forum.
At the moment Mint-Mate is at the top of my list (to condsider) but now there is a Debian variation in the mix

I want a UI that looks like XP Classic. Win7 with ClassicShell is close-enough good enough for me.

I don't want to go through the pain of downloading various "versions" of Linux, Mint, Debian, Ubuntu, etc ... and installing, to only find they are butt ugly (for me).
Each week/month I receive Linux "news" emails ... and I am gobsmacked at the number of Linux OS' ... 100s.

Once I have rebuilt "the-great-wall-of-China" ... the to-do list is monumental ... I want to experiment with whs' Mint-Mate on a stick, and Jimbo's suggestions in various threads/discussions through this forum.

I have been saving-to-txt-files links, comments and observations ... for many months.
Hopefully will make the Mint-Mate experiment easier when the time comes.

Thank you to all contributors, this thread.discussion has been fascinating since day #1
... a lot of material for my "to-do-list"
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14 May 2014   #105
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Why not set them up in a VM with VMware. It takes about 10 minutes to install it and 10 seconds to delete it if you don't like it. There are a couple of tutorials here on how to do it.
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15 May 2014   #106
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

I might get SHOT for suggesting this on a W7 forum - but with a little bit of shenanigans - so long as you use Custom Toolbars on W8.1 (note W8.1 - forget W8) and can live without the classic start button you can create a Cascading menu system that looks very much like the old XP style - your only concession is that you have to click the toolbar (in this case My Progs) instead of a start Orb.

(The same methodology will actually work in W7) -- my example also shows how to add the Metro apps also to the menu system from the desktop -- W7 doesn't have those though.

The advantage to custom toolbars is that YOU can choose what to have on your menu and how to arrange it.

Cheers
jimbo


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15 May 2014   #107
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there

I might get SHOT for suggesting this on a W7 forum - but with a little bit of shenanigans - so long as you use Custom Toolbars on W8.1 (note W8.1 - forget W8) and can live without the classic start button you can create a Cascading menu system that looks very much like the old XP style - your only concession is that you have to click the toolbar (in this case My Progs) instead of a start Orb.

(The same methodology will actually work in W7) -- my example also shows how to add the Metro apps also to the menu system from the desktop -- W7 doesn't have those though.

The advantage to custom toolbars is that YOU can choose what to have on your menu and how to arrange it.

Cheers
jimbo
Actually, several people here use and promote the use of custom toolbars on Win 7. I personally do not like them but I'm in the minority.
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15 May 2014   #108
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Start8 from Stardock has actually made my W8.1 VM partially likeable. And I really do feel dirty saying that.

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15 May 2014   #109
bawldiggle

XP/7x32 & x64/8x64/8.1x64
 
 

@ essenbe
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GrayGhost2
I don't want to go through the pain of downloading various "versions" of Linux, Mint, Debian, Ubuntu, etc ... and installing, to only find they are butt ugly (for me).
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe
Why not set them up in a VM with VMware. It takes about 10 minutes to install it and 10 seconds to delete it if you don't like it. There are a couple of tutorials here on how to do it.
Where?

I found Found VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin and VMware Player - Expand Virtual Machine Hard Disk in "V" tutorials ...

Am I close ... ?
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15 May 2014   #110
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

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