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Windows 7: New Microsoft VP consigns the PC to irrelevance


27 Apr 2014   #21

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
That is not uncommon. The guys who make the biggest mess get the best promotions. How else would anybody know they existed.
It's called kicking the problem upstairs. Often, the easiest way to get rid of an undesirable but otherwise competent employee is to promote her/him to another department. That gets the employee out of your hair and, with luck, the employee may screw up badly enough at the new job to become fireable.

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27 Apr 2014   #22

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I do believe you are correct Derek. I don't blame Microsoft and Nokia for wanting a big piece of the portables market. That is just good business.
To state the PC market is going away because we now make portables is just dumb to me. That Nokia clown seems to think he is the one that is going to make it happen.
I'm thinking people will buy both portables and PC's.
I wonder how many people on this forum do that right now.
That guy is just another "Idiot getting attention" as Gary said, they wanted a story and he gave them one.

As long as there is a market for PC's they will be around.

As for people on this forum who buy both, have a look in the who's online,

http://www.sevenforums.com/online.php

On the right side you'll see a lot of mobile icons.
Don't forget me, I and some others use the browser instead of the app.

Also, I hope Bill Gates steps in and goes against this. I mean this would put MS at stake. What if Nokia never catches up?
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27 Apr 2014   #23
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Perhaps MS should also go into the refrigerator business, LG, for one, makes a "smart" one. They can't let that market fall out if their hands.
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27 Apr 2014   #24

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Hi there.

Talks about TOTAL UTTER DRIVEL.

I mean anybody with a bit of Nous can pick a hole even from the first sentence --.."Most people do not have ...."

For example "Most people do not have a Ferrari" --- does that stop Ferrari from making them and being the very successful company that it is.

I put CNET in the same category as Gartner etc. The best use they can have is by generating natural gas due to the sheer volume of Bovine Excretia that seems to come from that particular stable.

Ms isn't going to abandon Office (its most successful product), or the zillions of dollars it has in maintenance contracts -- to say nothing of new business it has garnered by selling extended XP support to a few large sections of the business community.

Just because it has made an acquisition (NOKIA) - doesn't mean to say it abandons its (still HUGELY PROFITABLE) other stuff.

I think Ms should take a leaf out of Man. Utd's book and SACK ( US - fire / let go) the new VP or he could become V(ery) P(oisonous).

Cheers
jimbo
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27 Apr 2014   #25

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there.

Talks about TOTAL UTTER DRIVEL.

I mean anybody with a bit of Nous can pick a hole even from the first sentence --.."Most people do not have ...."

For example "Most people do not have a Ferrari" --- does that stop Ferrari from making them and being the very successful company that it is.

I put CNET in the same category as Gartner etc. The best use they can have is by generating natural gas due to the sheer volume of Bovine Excretia that seems to come from that particular stable.

Ms isn't going to abandon Office (its most successful product), or the zillions of dollars it has in maintenance contracts -- to say nothing of new business it has garnered by selling extended XP support to a few large sections of the business community.

Just because it has made an acquisition (NOKIA) - doesn't mean to say it abandons its (still HUGELY PROFITABLE) other stuff.

I think Ms should take a leaf out of Man. Utd's book and SACK ( US - fire / let go) the new VP or he could become V(ery) P(oisonous).

Cheers
jimbo
Oh, man! You nailed it! That whole thing was dead on!
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27 Apr 2014   #26

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64 (Windows 8.1, Linux Mint, Windows XP and others in VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I really don't understand the whole thought patter.
If by chance Microsoft and Nokia made the best phone and tablet that has ever been made and sold it cheap what the hell does that have to do with laptops and desktops.

Cell phones don't replace PC. Just because people buy a fancy phone doesn't mean they wouldn't also buy and use a PC.
Is their some international law that states you can't use both and own both at the same time?

That's like saying if you make the best wrist watch people are going to buy them and throw away all the clocks in homes and businesses. No more clocks in government building either.
I must be a real dumb person. I don't see how one replaces the other.
Jack, there you go again, using logic and being practical. When are you ever going to learn?
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27 Apr 2014   #27
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

It's strategy - not logic.
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27 Apr 2014   #28

Win-7 Home Prem 64-bit 7601 Free SP1
 
 

It's difficult to take the guy seriously coming from the now mobile branch,
What is he supposed to say that their going to start building computers
Nokia has built nothing but garbage for a while now,

Lets see them water cool one of those bad boy slates
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27 Apr 2014   #29

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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64 (Windows 8.1, Linux Mint, Windows XP and others in VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
It's strategy - not logic.
Are you talking about Microsoft or Jack?

Jack's was good, Microsoft's was bad, whether it is strategy or logic. Einstein said "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
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27 Apr 2014   #30

Windows 7 Professional x64 Sp1
 
 

When you deal with the idiot public enough like I have, you realize people want one thing. The E for internet. Where is my internet? Could you install my internet?

The average public realized a giant desktop is no longer needed to do facebook and other content absorption sites. That is what most of the public does. Go on the internet. Sure they play games and use apps, but 99% of it requires or uses the internet.

Microsoft and other businesses are realizing that, (some much later then others) and are going where the money is. Cell phones are seen as ancient if more then a year old. People are treating tablets the same as well. So this means more device buying=more money.

The desktop is not going away, it will just not be owned by the average joe/public as much. Only a enthusiast like us or a content creator, or managing virtual machines, domains, companies etc. will be using desktops. They are not going away, their main original purpose is.

But in terms of windows on desktops that could be in trouble too. Steam is coming out with their own operating system, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. But my opinion is gamers will flock to it.

I know some businesses are using thin clients running Linux combined with citrix and running windows apps from the citrix server running on windows server. So windows might even become less of a need on business machines as well. And that could spell trouble if only their server editions are being bought.


In the end, I think the best thought to come from this is windows will be more secure, since the focus will be taken away from it. Threats follow the market share. Too many absent minded people do not think about malware on the IOS (especially apple devices-it just works) or android or windows phone devices. So they will not be expecting it. So when the payload hits and more and more hackers make that their main attention, operating systems like windows in my opinion will become more secure. And that is good for us, but not for the public.


I will say this, no one knows how everything will go down the next few years, but you can be sure for most people the desktop will not be a part of it.
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