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Windows 7: Microsoft forecasting clouds - for everyone.

20 May 2014   #51
msgerbs

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
Cloud storage is just as prone to failure as local storage
The decision to not use cloud storage is yours, and in your case I guess makes sense. But that statement is simply untrue. The drives have more durability, are redundant and fault-tolerant, and data is generally distributed. Why go to such lengths if they're such greedy money-grubbers? Simply: Good service brings customers.

The solution to most or all of your issues with cloud storage is to not go with a "cloud storage" provider but with a raw storage provider like Amazon. For a company like Amazon, reputation is everything. The cost of making sure data is secure and reliable is pocket change compared to what they stand to lose if their reputation is tarnished.

It's your choice not to trust or use cloud storage, but it has plenty of legitimate uses and there's no reason for baseless bashing. Nobody has yet tried to claim IP rights for uploaded data (encryption, anybody?), when somebody does, well, abandon ship. For every host that tries that, another will denounce them in an attempt to steal their business. And cloud storage (from a decent provider) is provably more reliable than any local storage you could put together yourself.


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20 May 2014   #52
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

I think most of the problems with cloud storage for most home users is the limit on your monthly IP allowance. I have a monthly limit of 8Gb & when exceeded I drop down to about dial up speed. So any large files are going to burn up that limit very quickly.
Also my upload speed is only about 500,000Kb per second, so it's going to take a month of Sundays to upload any sizeable file.
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21 May 2014   #53
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
I think most of the problems with cloud storage for most home users is the limit on your monthly IP allowance. I have a monthly limit of 8Gb & when exceeded I drop down to about dial up speed. So any large files are going to burn up that limit very quickly.
Also my upload speed is only about 500,000Kb per second, so it's going to take a month of Sundays to upload any sizeable file.

Hi there

.................."And therein lies the rub"......................

Cheers
jimbo
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21 May 2014   #54
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
Also my upload speed is only about 500,000Kb per second, so it's going to take a month of Sundays to upload any sizeable file.
I assume you mean 500kbs (500Mbs is great, we only get 5Mbs download and 1Mbs upload here).
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21 May 2014   #55
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
Also my upload speed is only about 500,000Kb per second, so it's going to take a month of Sundays to upload any sizeable file.
I assume you mean 500kbs (500Mbs is great, we only get 5Mbs download and 1Mbs upload here).
Yes you are correct, I did end up putting in too many zeros. 500kbs upload is about right.
Sorry about the error.
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22 May 2014   #56
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

I think the recent events at EBAY show the inherent dangers of trusting too much in "Remote Services". My experience with some of this stuff is that it's usually OFFSHORED to the cheapest possible places where "Quality Control" is something that if they've heard of at all exists only in Science Fiction. Also with very low wages it wouldn't surprise me if it's relatively easy for people with criminal intent and "Loadsamoney" to bribe some of the staff in these places for access.

I remember recently when an off shored facility - I think it was in Bangalore(?) or somewhere like that used by "Sharkley's" (Aka Barclays) Bank was compromised - an undercover Newspaper reporter was able to BUY pin numbers for Credit and Debit cards at around a few US dollars per 1000 "job lots". !!!

I often wonder why a lot of sites require you to REGISTER if just BUYING something -- surely if I give a valid payment method and delivery address then that should be sufficient. With Click and Collect these days you don't even HAVE to have deliveries at home if you don't want to.

People are much too trusting these days with e-crime. Because they don't SEE physical evidence of crime they assume it doesn't exist until it's too late -- and how many sites have you ever used where you need to give a PASSPHRASE rather than a password -- very very few.

Just store on the cloud pure Data that doesn't contain any personal info -- anything else if it has any sort of commercial value - sooner or later it's bound to be compromised -- and with the advent of QUANTUM COMPUTERS the whole idea of passwords and today's classical encryption will be made obsolete anyway.

Cheers
jimbo
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22 May 2014   #57
Fantail

7 x64 | 7 x64
 
 

I have always tried to minimize any personal data 'out there'. But sooner or later due to online shopping or other transactions your data is subject to compromise. Step by step the system wants to burn it into you. For example when my employer switched 401k plans, now the current one is for the most part all online. Sooner or later company's will be able to extort fees for security based on fear of data loss alone. If they are not stepping into that to some degree already. Anything and everything they can do, one step at a time to get every last coin from you possible. Of course if it was done all at once then - gosh some people might resist to much. Big government follows the same game plan as we speak.
Anyways, no cloud back-up for me. I have sufficient local back-up. And even with that, from the desktop or the laptop, boot drives, secondary etc., if all was lost I could start over with out any life ending data crippling emotionally detaching catastrophe.
Oh by the way I do have a request for any company that insists on sending me snail mail advertising about data, internet speed - security, or whatnot - would you please base your letters or flyers on regular paper with soy based ink. Otherwise, when they go into the paper shredder I can't use the material in the composter.
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22 May 2014   #58
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

For Snail Mail I refuse to even OPEN any letter that has "Windows" -- if people want to send me bills then they can do it by EMAIL or even mobile phone text. If I have to ever go to court for "non payment" I'd simply say I'm not trying to avoid payment --I'm helping to keep the planet green by only wanting e-bills, and save all that diesel etc that the postman has to use plus all the paper --Trees aren't that common in Iceland anyway.

If you get a Bovine answer from the Bank for example (now almost all Govt controlled here anyway) saying "We don't do email" -- then that's THEIR problem not yours. Any decent Court on this planet would side with you - especially if they knew it wasn't a question of you simply finding ways of NOT paying legitimate bills. Besides the Postman doesn't then also risk getting Bitten by my Dogs. !!

Cheers
jimbo
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22 May 2014   #59
The Nude Dude

Win 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
 
 

people can hate mt following comment but as far as i'm concerned it's apt.

i'm forecasting rain for those fool enough to trust their data to others.
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22 May 2014   #60
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Having issues like the latest "Heartbleed" bug or the recent Ebay anouncements, they still try to force people into a cloud computing?... maaaaaaaaaan... The most secure thing in my life is me and ME controling what I store and what not, I wouldnt trust anyone to hold my data, adding to that, in many cases, is the same people that sold valuable personal information to the NSA without hesitating.

Are you trusting this people?
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