Internet 'Do Not Track' system is in shatters

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    Internet 'Do Not Track' system is in shatters


    Posted: 24 May 2014
    Chalk up another victory for corporate surveillance: Five years after advocates came up with an easy way to let you browse the Web with just a little privacy, the Do Not Track system is in tatters and that pair of boots you looked at online last month is still stalking you from website to website.

    In 2009, a few Internet privacy advocates developed an idea that was supposed to give people a way to tell websites they don't want to be monitored as they move from website to website. The mechanism, which would eventually be built into all the major browsers, was called Do Not Track.

    With a single browser setting, these advocates thought, users would be able to communicate a preference for their privacy. It would be easier than downloading add-on software or creating a blacklist of specific companies to block. Do Not Track, or DNT, would be the Web's version of the telemarketer Do Not Call list.
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    A Guy
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    24 May 2014



  1. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #1

    Thanks A Guy.
    The Do Not Track will not survive as intended for one reason; money.

    The internet could not exist as it does without advertising money.
    I don't believe this Forum would survive without income from advertisements.

    Google doesn't spend billions of dollars on systems, hardware and buildings all over the world just to make new friends. They do it to make money with advertisements.
    Anything that hinders advertisement is a no go for companies like Google and many others.

    Tasteful advertisement in a proper fashion would be welcomed by users of the internet in my opinion.
    Advertisement is the life blood of the internet. Tracking is a method use by companies to get the best bag for their buck.

    Do Not Track is just another method for tracking. It let others know you are there. If you missed me the first search check this out.

    Here I am please nice guys don't track me.

    I do agree with this from the article.

    But maybe the list should be empty. "There is no such thing as Do Not Track right now," said Mike Zaneis, executive vice president, public policy, and general counsel at the Interactive Advertising Bureau. "It's a gimmicky marketing term," he said.

    Money could also be driving companies' refusal to honor DNT, given that their businesses largely run on ad dollars. Delivering ads to the right people at the right time is harder if they're hiding from you.
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       #2

    Cookies!

    I've wrestled with the best way to remove my muddy footprints from the nice clean floors on the Internet.

    I'm currently using IE 10 as my browser and clear history on exit - everything gets cleaned except
    ActiveX Filtering and Tracking Protection data

    This approach solved 99% of the issue for me, but it screwed up logins (cookie based) on secure sites (bank)
    To solve that I ticked
    Preserve Favorites website data

    99.9 percent solution since all favorited websites data was preserved.

    Settled on creating an IEfavs folder outside of Favorites and moved all links to that new folder
    then I created a Preserve folder in Favorites and copied the links I need to keep to Favorites\Preserve
    then I created a shortcut in IE Favorites to the other folder IEfavs

    Periodically, I move newly created favorites to IEfavs so the data for those are not preserved next time I exit IE.

    Any website that I absolutely need to preserve data (passwords, logins, etc) gets moved to Favorites\Preserve

    Caveat: cCleaner will clean cookies if you tick that option. I add the required cookies to the Smart Cookie 'keep' processing in cCleaner

    It's a bit convoluted, but once setup, it works well for me. No cookies = no tracking!
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  3. Posts : 51,467
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       #3

    Forget it, cookies are increasingly irrelevant, browser fingerprinting and other methods are deployed by the professionals.

    Just check your browser fingerprint and see how unique you then think how easy it is to use the data for tracking - https://panopticlick.eff.org/
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  4. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #4

    I get this. When I use this https://panopticlick.eff.org/

    Internet 'Do Not Track' system is in shatters-do-not-track.png
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  5. Posts : 51,467
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
       #5

    Their SSL reads fine in all my browsers.
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  6. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #6

    Okay; what exactly is that telling me. Do I have a problem that needs a cure.

    If I use I.E. 11 I get this.

    https://panopticlick.eff.org/index.p...ion=log&js=yes

    Internet 'Do Not Track' system is in shatters-i.e..png


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    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #7

    Thanks John,

    Those cheeky sons without fathers!

    Panopticlick results said:
    Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 4,150,880 tested so far.

    Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 21.98 bits of identifying information......
    Being unique is not good - my browser fingerprint identifies me to the web site. I suppose this information might be shared or consolidated by a marketing firm.

    Very interesting reads
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/0...ry-and-privacy
    https://panopticlick.eff.org/browser-uniqueness.pdf
    -> most of the security add-ons mentioned in the above PDF are for Mozilla based browsers

    Still, cookies are a start.
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  8. Posts : 51,467
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
       #8

    Layback Bear said:
    Okay; what exactly is that telling me. Do I have a problem that needs a cure.

    If I use I.E. 11 I get this.

    https://panopticlick.eff.org/index.p...ion=log&js=yes

    Internet 'Do Not Track' system is in shatters-i.e..png
    What that is telling you is that just by reading a few details from your computer, your setup is unique and you can be tracked using that data rather than placing a cookie, I know Google and MSFT have both been working on similar cookieless tracking methods.

    Clearing cookies these days is getting pretty irrelevant as much better methods are being used.
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  9. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #9

    Remember I have no degrees in computer science but as far as I know if you are online you can be seen to one degree or another.
    As a old Frank Sinatra song stated (That's Life)

    Running off to get some ice cream and cookies.
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