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Windows 7: Microsoft warns against Windows XP security update hack

30 May 2014   #11
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I really don't understand extending XP Updates. We all have had years of warnings to move to another operating system.
Surly Microsoft has given more than enough warnings.


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30 May 2014   #12
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

For many, XP is the only current means of accessing the internet and/or running some software. To upgrade the OS would mean not only the cost of the OS but also the cost of a new machine. Many of these machines can't be upgraded or it's just not worth it in hardware expenses. And who wants to buy a new machine with Windows 8 installed on it? I have two machines myself still running XP and they will continue to run it until the good smoke comes out. After that, they'll probably be replaced with pads or books running Android.

This machine will continue to run Windows 7 until I see favorable (to me) options beyond Windows 8. So the delay to implement a new OS will just continue. It will just be at a different OS release.
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30 May 2014   #13
Mcgluke

Kali Linux, Custom OS's
 
 

carwiz = Greatest member of the board, Hands down!

I think they are that sick of it getting hacked and finally gave in, No doubt in my mind it was forced due to the cost of 'maintaining' security.

XP - The one thing we love about M$
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30 May 2014   #14
Pete4

win7hp64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I really don't understand extending XP Updates. We all have had years of warnings to move to another operating system.
Surly Microsoft has given more than enough warnings.
Some businesses use custom written software that will not work on anything else and would cost hundreds if not millions of dollars to rewrite, upgrade, retrain staff etc. Or take me for example: I have 2 old desktop computers running XP: one setup as gaming rig - mostly flight simulation, another one as media server for playing music, videos, movies. It would cost me over $200 in win licenses alone, plus endless hours of codec and system setup, just to make them work. And for what reason would I ever wanted to go to all this trouble? Don't even get me started on that pile of manure called win 8, I struggled with it on my laptop for almost a year and finally got me so mad I smashed the computer, braking the HDD in process, which gave me opportunity to reinstall Win7. Anyhow, I don't have a problem, my XP computers have very narrow use and don't require internet access most of the time, so I don't care about security, since I have my Win 7 laptop for everything else.
As far as using win7 updates for win xp, there are many internal differences between them and doing so will break windows, just a matter of time, so this would be one of those rare occasions where I would follow MS advice.
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30 May 2014   #15
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I'm flat sick and tired of the crybabies bemoaning the end of XP and stubbornly, not to mention ignorantly, refusing to upgrade from it! Any person or business that fails to plan for ahead for the eventual replacement of hardware and software deserves to fail. From the word go, it was known that XP was going to last only ten years, then M$ extended it a couple years beyond that, so there is absolutely NO excuse for not being ready for XP's End Of Life. The only possible exception might be for hardware that depends on custom software to operate and that would be only if the computer that operated the hardware/software could be kept isolated from all other machines and the internet. Choosing custom software that can't be upgraded to a newer OS or be readily replaced someday with newer software if the older software can't be upgraded is simply foolish and an unsound business practice (sadly, I've seen it happen all too often). Keeping old computers running is rarely cost effective and their inevitable replacement should be preplanned around known software and OS replacement cycles. Sure, the various flavors of Win 8 are turkeys but, so what? Win 7 isn't and everyone had more than adequate time to upgrade software and hardware to it. Win 7 will be here until 1/14/2020 so there will be plenty of time for people and businesses to prepare for what's next. Almost six years is a pretty good run for any computer; actually, more than six years since people and computers should have upgraded to Win 7 as soon as it was evident Win 8 was going to be a flop (and that was during the previews and when it was first released) and Win 7 was still readily available.
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30 May 2014   #16
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Sick an Tired?

I recommend rest.
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30 May 2014   #17
Mcgluke

Kali Linux, Custom OS's
 
 

Lady Fitzgerald I do agree and what will be more surprising is if any business isn't using *nix by then, They are the ones that will fail.. More like be failed hehe
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30 May 2014   #18
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HammerHead View Post
I recommend rest.
I agree, the crybabies should give it a rest.
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30 May 2014   #19
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I and most everybody understand the upgrade to Windows 7 and new hardware cost money. I believe we also understand that moving things from XP to a Windows 7 system takes time. These are givens not News. One can choose to do the move or not.
We all have been warned for years that Free Updates for XP will end; also not News.
If one doesn't heed the warnings so be it.

If my memory is correct Microsoft has offered updates for corporation for a fee.

Not a mile from me is a corporation that uses XP for their presses, cutting and grinding machines ect. programs and will for years to come. They have never been on the net and never will be. They have not been updated by Microsoft and never will be. No need to be.
They work exactly like they did when XP was installed.
The best I can tell their is no need for this huge company to change their XP running the programs that run their equipment. Yes their are still good reasons for keeping XP but keep it in the proper places.

That being said: To use XP for private corporation transactions or customer information could be a disaster. They do business all over the world dealing with hundreds of millions of dollars.

For those who want to keep and use XP by all means do so. I really don't care.
If you system doesn't go online well you don't have to worry about online security.

But I would choose not to do business with a company or corporation that uses XP for any business transaction what so ever including my personal information.
Of course at times I don't have a choice what companies I deal with and what operating system they are using.
Will it cost some companies many millions of dollars to upgrade; most certainly but they have had years of warnings this day would come. They should of been prepared for this years ago.
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30 May 2014   #20
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I and most everybody understand the upgrade to Windows 7 and new hardware cost money. I believe we also understand that moving things from XP to a Windows 7 system takes time. These are givens not News. One can choose to do the move or not.
We all have been warned for years that Free Updates for XP will end; also not News.
If one doesn't heed the warnings so be it.

If my memory is correct Microsoft has offered updates for corporation for a fee.

Not a mile from me is a corporation that uses XP for their presses, cutting and grinding machines ect. programs and will for years to come. They have never been on the net and never will be. They have not been updated by Microsoft and never will be. No need to be.
They work exactly like they did when XP was installed.
The best I can tell their is no need for this huge company to change their XP running the programs that run their equipment. Yes their are still good reasons for keeping XP but keep it in the proper places.

That being said: To use XP for private corporation transactions or customer information could be a disaster. They do business all over the world dealing with hundreds of millions of dollars.

For those who want to keep and use XP by all means do so. I really don't care.
If you system doesn't go online well you don't have to worry about online security.

But I would choose not to do business with a company or corporation that uses XP for any business transaction what so ever including my personal information.
Of course at times I don't have a choice what companies I deal with and what operating system they are using.
Will it cost some companies many millions of dollars to upgrade; most certainly but they have had years of warnings this day would come. They should of been prepared for this years ago.
Thank you for "getting it"!
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