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Windows 7: Microsoft warns against Windows XP security update hack

31 May 2014   #31
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Hmm, I wonder if these smart hackers will apply it to Linux to get Windows Updates too?
What?


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31 May 2014   #32
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Hmm, I wonder if these smart hackers will apply it to Linux to get Windows Updates too?
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31 May 2014   #33
msgerbs

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
Sorry L.F. but you don't know much about what the true costs are to a business to just update one release of an OS. There's more to it than slapping a PC on someone's desk. I don't know what background you have in business but clearly it's not administrative or budget related. Perhaps the closest you've come to business is the checkout lanes at WalMart because that seems to be your take on the simplicity of a large corporation making changes.

Here's a quick view of what it really costs for a fortune 500 company to make changes.

Change Terminals (PCs): $13.5 million
Update OS: $3.2 million
Update software: $60 million
Personnel Training: $380 million
Lost Op. Costs: $700 million
Stock value loss: $2.2 billion

Net Loss to company: $3.356+ Billion

So quit your crybaby pressure to get everyone to agree with you. The ones that count are ignoring you.
Where does the $2.2billion come from? And why is training users more costly than paying developers to update 15-year-old software?

Regardless of all this, technology moves forward, it's how things work. It should've been planned for years in advance. Look at it as an operational expense and get over it. That said, when you really get down to it, it's not microsoft forcing people to change, it's the hackers devoting their lives to finding vulnerabilities in Windows. If not for them, you could keep using XP forever.

Besides, your new computers are vastly faster and more powerful than your old XP machines ever were, letting people get work done faster, as well as improving morale.
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31 May 2014   #34
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Talking about keep employes trained. Try running a auto dealership.
Auto's change constantly and mechanics need training constantly. It's a never ending battle.
Who would of ever thought that a auto mechanic had to train and learn about a car that has 20 computers (yes 20) networked.
A car that has radar and will park itself with you doing thing but sitting behind the steering wheel. Somebody has to be trained to repair such systems. Their are call auto mechanics or technicians.
Keep your employes trained is part of doing business.
The equipment need to do today's business should of been factored in years ago.
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31 May 2014   #35
matts6887

Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
 
 

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Microsoft has warned against using a hack that allows Windows XP to continue to receive important security updates after Microsoft withdrew support in April.

The hack tricks Microsoft’s update servers into applying security patches to Microsoft’s 13-year-old Windows XP. A small change within Windows XP makes it appear as other versions of Windows that are still supported until 2019.

Microsoft warned that Windows XP customers may face problems if they install the updates. “The security updates that could be installed are intended for Windows Embedded and Windows Server 2003 customers and do not fully protect Windows XP customers,” Microsoft said in a statement released to ZDnet. “Windows XP customers also run a significant risk of functionality issues with their machines if they install these updates, as they are not tested against Windows XP.”
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This does not totally surprise me either. Especially with all the risks of getting infected by malware, etc. these days. While there are still those xp diehards out there that for whatever reason still want to be able to use xp(why they would is beyond me); its just not worth the security risk etc. imo.
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31 May 2014   #36
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Lets have a moment of silence for XP. It has earned it.

A great system for many years.
RIP XP.

Microsoft closes the taps for Windows XP support


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01 Jun 2014   #37
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by msgerbs View Post
And why is training users more costly than paying developers to update 15-year-old software?
I suggest that it is because developers know what they are doing (or they should) whereas users know nothing.

30 years ago I was told that it cost the organisation I worked for $100/hr to employ me (I got ~$10/hr).
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01 Jun 2014   #38
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

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And why is training users more costly than paying developers to update 15-year-old software?
Because there are a lot more users that use software then developers that develop it.
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01 Jun 2014   #39
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
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And why is training users more costly than paying developers to update 15-year-old software?
Because there are a lot more users that use software then developers that develop it.
Don't forget that for each newer version of any given software a certain amount of retraining to get familiar with changes may be necessary and why companies often hold off for lengthy periods of time before taking the upgrade path.

Continually upgrading dos or 9x at this late date would be pointless as well as for the 13yr. old XP since newer pc users would be expecting newer "bells and whistles" for the obviously reasons was well as long timers going with the latest. Then of course software companies make the bulk of their revenues by selling the updated wares to existing customers as well as wanting to bring new ones in.
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02 Jun 2014   #40
Pete4

win7hp64
 
 

According to this :
Windows 7 is still growing in market share - GSMArena Blog
At the moment Win7 has 50% market share
Win XP 25 %
Win 8 and Win 8.1 around 6% each.
Vista 2.9%
Also Win 7 has the fastest growing rate of 0.79 %
Personally I don't care either way, but for the company to completely abandon 25% of it's customers (Win XP) and at the same time keeping support for products that have 2.9% of the market share (Vista) or pushing products that customers clearly don't want (Win 8 and 8.1 with slower growth rate than 7) clearly shows arrogance.
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