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28 Jun 2014   #131
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I do agree John.
Take the good things from Windows 8 and Windows 7 and combine them into Windows 9. I will buy it.

I would rather see that in a Windows 7 SP-2 but that isn't going to happen. SP's are free. Microsoft want to see operating system and I don't blame them for that.

Just don't try to make Windows 9 cross platform.
I don't want Windows 9 to work like a tablet or phone.


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28 Jun 2014   #132
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

This "I don't want a touch OS" hysteria never stops amazing me. Apart of two mobile phones I don't have nor think I get a touch device or screen. One of the reasons I like Windows 8.1 so much is the flexibility, how fast and easy it is to use the Modern interface with mouse and keybord.

As I have said earlier, a lot of this complaining is about an additional feature which the user must never see or use.
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28 Jun 2014   #133
z3r010

 

MSFT have a pattern in the Windows releases (note 98se and XP sp2 really were different OS's and MSFT wanted to originally release them as such)

95 - good
98 - unstable as hell
98 se - good
ME - it was ME nuff said
2000 - awesome rock solid
XP - buggy as hell
XP sp2 - great
Vista - badly managed minimum specs meant it was run on machines that it shouldn't so was generally seen as bad.
W7 - Great
W8 - no leaks or start menu alienated the community from the start leading to it being more toxic than Vista.
W8.1.x - pretty good now but the brand is too toxic to make up any ground with the public

W9 - If it follows the good bad trends then is should be awesome.
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28 Jun 2014   #134
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Apart from the differences between 7 and 8 and the opinions people have about both, I'm more concerned that MS operating systems are soon going to be coming out more regularly than the annual installments of Call of Duty. Three years (or there abouts) after 7 we had 8, and now in less than two years we're on the verge of 9. I love 7, I'm getting much more used to 8.1, and no doubt I'll be intrigued by 9. But to have 9 I'd have to sacrifice one of the former two to run it on my main rig which is something I don't really want to do. 7 is still amazing, 8 is becoming a very good second OS.
I feel that Microsoft's ballsed up foray into the mobile market is affecting us much more than it's affecting them. They screwed up big time, that's clear enough from the amount of changes they made to 8, and while a lot of people are still against 8 surely the legwork required to make it into the desktop version the average user wants straight out of the box would be easier (and less confusing) than releasing a third OS in six years?
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28 Jun 2014   #135
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Also I thought XP SP3 was nearly a new OS too.
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28 Jun 2014   #136
gregrocker

 

IMO they really only need Win9 to sort out touch devices then keep Win7 rolling on with a SP2.

Who says an OS can't have a 10 year life when it's this good?

I understand Planned obsolescence but this is more like smothered in crib. Why hide retail copies? Why deny a SP2 to the great inconvenience of customers?
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28 Jun 2014   #137
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

The first thing I require in a new operating system is simple like me.
Give me something usable and better than what I already have in some major way.

I have no problem turning off things or downloading a pdf reader or something to watch movies with.
I like to be able to get things from Microsoft because they seem to work better with their operating systems.
App's priced right I also don't have a problem with.
Look what it cost to get something from Microsoft just to read a pdf file.
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28 Jun 2014   #138
z3r010

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
App's priced right I also don't have a problem with.
Look what it cost to get something from Microsoft just to read a pdf file.
PDF reader is native in W8
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28 Jun 2014   #139
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
You don't need to see or use metro, I've not seen it in months so what is the problem?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
This "I don't want a touch OS" hysteria never stops amazing me. Apart of two mobile phones I don't have nor think I get a touch device or screen. One of the reasons I like Windows 8.1 so much is the flexibility, how fast and easy it is to use the Modern interface with mouse and keybord.

As I have said earlier, a lot of this complaining is about an additional feature which the user must never see or use.

Friends, the issue I had been bringing up for windows 8 users was this:

Average users would not know where to go to turn that off. (boot right to desktop) They also do not know how to correct file associations or how to not use the metro programs. So many people I know get trapped in the metro area and cannot figure out how to get out of it.

I show them, there like oh and usually it does not happen again. The key point is I have to show them.
Customers should be able to use the most basic functions of a pc without needing a guru.


They have no idea. For you, its a simple check box. For them its a frustrating machine that does what it wants and not what the customer wants.

Windows 8 is fine, if your a geek. The average public is not. And that is why it is not selling. It is not cause windows 8 is bad, its cause there own customers do not know how to use it.

That is why. I have people coming to me, (even with the 8.1 update) and they open the metro internet explorer, and do not know how to get out of it. I have had 2 woman cry about it-they were that frustrated. They felt so stupid because they could not figure out how to close out of it.

I have other people, who are running windows 8, and never got the 8.1 update.

Why? Because Microsoft decided you need to visit there store to get it, instead of it being put through windows update. There is no popup remind you to upgrade to 8.1. It is only found in the store. So what does that mean? The average user has no idea, will not think to install it. They see it as another annoying update and feel it is not needed. So now what happens? No more security updates for you!


The issue is not windows 8 necessarily. (regardless of my disagreements with the hidden interface options)

The issue is no documentation for average users who experienced a huge change in there interface that is nothing like what they are used to. (Yes I know about the tiny little demo shown to point your mouse to the corners. That is not enough.)

Another customer I had come in thought that windows 8 was only in metro mode. They did not even see the desktop tile or knew what that meant. They thought they had to use apps, and had to use Microsoft store and account.

And that right there is what Microsoft is betting on.

Microsoft's plan is to kill the desktop. They want to become a walled garden like the other mobile operating systems. They want to lock people in.

And that is preciously why I will not support this OS. I am voting with my feet. And clearly, so are a lot of others. (Yes some for the wrong reasons.)

MHO

Nothing wrong with windows 8, you like what you like. I like what I like.

And its a operating system. So lets just all be friends.
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28 Jun 2014   #140
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
App's priced right I also don't have a problem with.
Look what it cost to get something from Microsoft just to read a pdf file.
PDF reader is native in W8
Another goodie that should be in Windows 9.
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