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Windows 7: Microsoft exec admits new reality: Market share no longer 90%, it's 14

20 Jul 2014   #51
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Actually, portables are no longer a niche market but, the fact remains, not everyone needs portable computing. A 15" notebook conveniently meets my computing needs when I travel since I don't need to be connected 24/7. My cell phone is an ancient Oystr I keep in my pocket or purse for emergency phone calls; in fact, phone calls (and texting, which I never do) are all it can do. It stays turned off except for the rare occasions when I actually use it (otherwise, I would have to recharge it daily; like I'm going to remember to do that!). I have to pay only the equivalent of $7.25/month for it. The only other portable device I ever carry when away from home is an e-book reader (at home, I read from my TV, which is connected to my computer). Somehow, I don't feel the least bit deprived.


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20 Jul 2014   #52
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Man,

Jimbo sure loves his surface.

Were starting to get close to apple fanboy levels here...

Of course you got to feel better about yourself for buying it since it cost $1,000+
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20 Jul 2014   #53
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
Man,

Jimbo sure loves his surface.

Were starting to get close to apple fanboy levels here...

Of course you got to feel better about yourself for buying it since it cost $1,000+
I don't know about that. It would make me feel bad to pay almost twice as much more than what I paid for my notebooks for a tablet that can't do half of what my notebooks can do. The tablets are lighter than a notebook but I wouldn't say they are more portable. If I needed that much portability, I would get a smart phone; those will fit in a pocket or purse much more easily than a tablet and they can even—get this—make phone calls!
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20 Jul 2014   #54
lffoar

Windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

Sheee, I better tell the grandkids they can use those "things" they constantly have in their hands to actually make a phone call!! Fitzy, I'm confused......I only pay 10 cents for my notebooks, always in the pocket with the pen ready to jot down anything I need to remember....if I haven't forgotten already
Of course tablets are much lighter and yes, more portable than a notebook. I measured a little white one I take for the headaches computers give me just then.....only around a quarter of an inch in diameter!!
And hey, if you can find a "smart" phone good luck. Mine's not smart at all and I'd have to buy a woman's bloody big bag to carry it around....after I knock it off the wall.
Technology, Bah humbug!!
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20 Jul 2014   #55
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lffoar View Post
Sheee, I better tell the grandkids they can use those "things" they constantly have in their hands to actually make a phone call!! Fitzy, I'm confused......I only pay 10 cents for my notebooks, always in the pocket with the pen ready to jot down anything I need to remember....if I haven't forgotten already
Of course tablets are much lighter and yes, more portable than a notebook. I measured a little white one I take for the headaches computers give me just then.....only around a quarter of an inch in diameter!!
And hey, if you can find a "smart" phone good luck. Mine's not smart at all and I'd have to buy a woman's bloody big bag to carry it around....after I knock it off the wall.
Technology, Bah humbug!!
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20 Jul 2014   #56
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Yep I still use note pad and pen. Fits just about any place.
With my hen scratching you could consider it encrypted.
No batteries to keep charged.
Haven't figured out how to hook it to the internet yet. No usb port or LAN. Oh well.

Cell phones use to make phone call; do you think that idea will ever catch on?
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20 Jul 2014   #57
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Yep I still use note pad and pen. Fits just about any place...
I keep a pad and pen by my bed, in my purse, and in my truck. They take almost no time at all to boot up and shut down.

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...With my hen scratching you could consider it encrypted...
I just call my hen scratches Sanskrit. It sounds more high falutin'.

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...No batteries to keep charged...
The best part!

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...Haven't figured out how to hook it to the internet yet. No usb port or LAN. Oh well...
Easy, take a picture or scan it.

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...Cell phones use to make phone call; do you think that idea will ever catch on?
Not a chance.
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21 Jul 2014   #58
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
Man,

Jimbo sure loves his surface.

Were starting to get close to apple fanboy levels here...

Of course you got to feel better about yourself for buying it since it cost $1,000+
Hi there

My last few posts were meant to emphasize that ANY suitable mobile device would work and that businesses that DON'T look at new technology will certainly lose ground in the future to those that embrace it. Mobile devices can often change how a whole business changes the way it operates -- some older business processes will get replaced while other processes that we might not have even thought about will come into play.

Any decent competitor to a surface pro 3 is fine -- I mentioned the SP3 because it's the FIRST one that has the power and facilities to be a decent laptop replacement --of course other manufacturers will come out with similar / maybe better and certainly cheaper models.

One should NEVER operate with totally closed minds -- even if YOUR business is not appropriate to using new devices at the moment it's almost impossible to say they will NEVER be used in the future - and if you are in technology the most successful people are those who are aware of what's going on even if you don't happen to like the new stuff or ever want to use it.

I'm quite amazed with some of the sentiments expressed in this thread -- I used to think it was 'Us Old'uns' who had the most difficulty with new technology and new business processes --I'm not so sure any more. !!

In any case the old adage in business is STILL true -- there's no standing still -- you have to keep innovating / make products more interesting / provide better service / cheaper service etc or eventually you will go out of business. A few exceptions like selling gasoline at a gas station I suppose don't lend themselves to a significant amount of automation -- although I'd like a robot attendant so I don't have to get greasy hands when filling up with diesel (Those plastic gloves are horrible !!) but generally it's true for a business --INNOVATE or DIE.

I'll just give one simple example I saw in rural Botswana -- African stall holder used to walk several km to market to get stock (food) to sell in the village. One person --- he managed to get two old rusty bikes ( which was new technology for him) - to be able to send his two boys to the market --they could come back with a lot more stock and quicker - so it was fresher and sold quicker.

Simple use of new technology -- that guy now has expanded first using motorbikes and now using a motorized and refrigerated delivery -- both the village population get better safer food and he's made his pile --good luck to him.

Cheers
jimbo
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21 Jul 2014   #59
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Jimbo, your long post compares apples to kumquats, especially your African stall holder analogy. No one here is saying no to all new technology; what we take issue with is new technology that doesn't improve our lives or workflows or isn't cost effective. For the cost of one bare bones Surface 3, I can buy two notebooks that are more powerful, have more storage capacity, a larger screen, a real keyboard, more USB ports, far superior multitasking capability, etc. While heavier and more awkward to hold than a Surface, I, and many others, don't need to carry a computer around with us all the time. Those of us who do most likely will find a smart phone to be far more practical than a tablet. Smart phones can be easily held and used with one hand. Try that with a tablet. Smart phones will fit in a pocket or a purse (or even a bra). Try any of that with a tablet.

I'm not saying tablets don't have their uses in business; they do. But not to the extent you seem to believe. And they certainly will not replace desktops and laptops any time soon for anything other than simple tasks, such as checking email and social media sites and simple internet surfing (and smart phones can do that with far more portability).
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21 Jul 2014   #60
andrew129260

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