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Windows 7: Microsoft exec admits new reality: Market share no longer 90%, it's 14

22 Jul 2014   #71
Lady Fitzgerald

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Hi, there

Why are we mentioning "Slates" here -- I'm talking about the Convertibles and the SP3 is just as competent as any current laptop - especially when it's in a docking station -- OK expensive but please people tell me what part of the spec is INFERIOR to a laptop. (Docking station gives 3 FULL USB3 ports too if you want a LOT of external devices).

Watching movies is easy too at airports -- even easier in "tablet mode" -- you can either read the movie off an micro sdHC card, internal SSD or external device -- on a 64GB micro SD card you can store about 40 Blu Ray quality (full 1080p) movies ripped at around 2GB each and the resolution is far better than using a typical standard laptop - plus battery life is longer too -- important now when boarding the plane - security might check if your device powers up - your laptop battery might be flat after 3 hrs use in an airport with no available power sockets !!. You don't have to have an internet connection if you don't want to use one.

Running apps (EXCEL etc) is fine too -- there IS a keyboard and you can use a wireless mouse - just like a laptop.

Operating it as a TABLET is only ONE way of using the device but given the usually poor screen resolution of a laptop (768 X 1366) I prefer any day the infinitely better screen resolution on the SP3 -- even on a small screen such as the Samsung S5 phone you can easily see the difference between 1080p (Samsung s5) and the 720p (Samsung S4) so on the SP3's screen it's really easy.

Plugged into a docking station with keyboard, mouse and nice large external monitor it out classes any laptop I've used in the last few years -- I haven't tried Apple but if we restrict ourselves to PC's then my statement is what I've experienced.

AS I keep re-iterating this is NOT a pure tablet - and other people will come out with similar (and probably) cheaper products --early adopters always pay more !!!. I remember my first CD player would have cost around 1200 USD in todays money!! and now it's throw away technology !!. Did I regret buying it -- not a bit and the millions who bought much cheaper CD players and CD's during their heyday should be eternally grateful to the "early adopters".

Any real old timers here might remember what the initial PC cost together with the unbelievably large 20 MB hard disk !!! - yes MB not GB or TB. Due to that takeup you've had decent cheap performing PC's for years. !!!

Cheers
jimbo
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22 Jul 2014   #72
ThrashZone

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I just want to know if any new buyers ever feel cheated when these devices price drop to reality,
Which at the storage is about 400.00 ?
And no I don't care what hardware is installed either it still isn't worth 7-800.00
Glad you like it Jimbo
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22 Jul 2014   #73
lffoar

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Why all this kerfuffle?? Tablets are for taking, notebooks are little books and I dunno wtf a "surface" is
Lookee here, this is my home phone...which makes...wait for it....phone calls!!
My mobile phone.....gotta keep up with the latest y' know.
And my loved computer.........just wondering, can anybody help me transition from windows 3.11 to windows 95?


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22 Jul 2014   #74
Ranger4

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Iffoar. Lovely picture of the old Ericsson wall phone you posted, although it looks like a later model. They were also available with an additional earphone so you could listen but not talk.
2 big 1.5 volt dry batteries wired in series in the base & a crank handle magneto on the RH side, for raising the exchange or phoning other party line subscribers.
Brings back past memories.
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23 Jul 2014   #75
jimbo45

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I just want to know if any new buyers ever feel cheated when these devices price drop to reality,
Which at the storage is about 400.00 ?
And no I don't care what hardware is installed either it still isn't worth 7-800.00
Glad you like it Jimbo
If you are "new adopters" then you DO pay a premium and are prepared to do so. - as I posted back with the example of a CD player -- now CD's are really DINOSAUR technology. Expect prices etc to drop considerably. It's only once a product reaches mainstream that you feel cheated if you buy something and almost immediately something else comes out much cheaper and better -- then that's your OWN fault -- you should have done your shopping more wisely.

It's only money after all -- people might say a new Ferrari isn't worth 350,000 EUR either - but people buy them.

I'd rather spend my money on Tax reclaimable technology than give it to the Govt to spend on making War or giving money to despotic 3rd world dictators under the guise of "Foreign Aid".


@Iffor

Great pics !!!. Note to W8 users -- there's no menu on Windows 3.11 either - weren't any complains back then !!!.

Talking of Old technology -- one which is making a small comeback strangely is VINYL -- I'm glad I kept some apparatus for cutting Vinyls -- thankfully kept an XP VM - the hardware will only work on W2000 / XP !!. Mind you perfectionists can quite reliably say that a pure analog sound (that our ears hear) can never be totally represented by a digital stream -- A/D conversion is done by a series (usually) of Fourier transforms (converts little bits of the analog sound sine waves) to small chunks of a digital signal. The smaller the "chunks" the better the conversion but it can never be 100% -- pretty close though !!.

With digital photography as opposed to film (analog) it's a bit easier as the eye can't sense so many gradations when colour is used - however even today it's very very difficult to produce a superb BLACK and WHITE digital print -- reason - infinite number of "gradations in the "Grey scale" for analog which is is usually converted to 15 bits for cheaper digital cameras -- even 2 **15 or 2**31 (expensive gear) is minute compared to infinity.

Cheers
jimbo
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23 Jul 2014   #76
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

@Iffoar. What are you requiring for the transition from Windows 3.1 to 95?.
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23 Jul 2014   #77
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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And my loved computer.........just wondering, can anybody help me transition from windows 3.11 to windows 95?
It's worth noting that whereas Windows 8 shoehorned Metro into people's faces, Windows 95 (and up to Windows XP SP1) allowed the user to use Program Manager as the shell instead of Explorer if they wished.
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23 Jul 2014   #78
Jody Thornton

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

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Talking of Old technology -- one which is making a small comeback strangely is VINYL -- I'm glad I kept some apparatus for cutting Vinyls

Arrrgggghhhhhh (LOL) Vinyls? I hate that. We never ever said "Vinyls" back in the day. LPs, records, analog discs or even just "vinyl"? Sure thing. But "vinyls" is how millennials say it...lol. Sorry it just irks me :P

(meant with a bit of humour. I'm not cranky at all...lol)

Cheers,
Jody
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23 Jul 2014   #79
Lady Fitzgerald

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Talking of Old technology -- one which is making a small comeback strangely is VINYL -- I'm glad I kept some apparatus for cutting Vinyls

Arrrgggghhhhhh (LOL) Vinyls? I hate that. We never ever said "Vinyls" back in the day. LPs, records, analog discs or even just "vinyl"? Sure thing. But "vinyls" is how millennials say it...lol. Sorry it just irks me :P

(meant with a bit of humour. I'm not cranky at all...lol)

Cheers,
Jody
Curious. I'm far from being a millennial and remember people referring to vinyls as vinyls to distinguish them from reel to reel, 8 tracks, and, later, when they first came out, CDs. I'm also amazed that people tout vinyls as being superior to digital because they have a "warmer" sound. That "warmer sound" is just distortion due to distortion and vinyl being unable to capture all details. One can achieve the same sound with high quality digital by filtering out some of the details and attenuating some of the highs. Big deal! I prefer the cleaner, more accurate sound one can get from digital and the freedom of needing huge amounts of space to store and play vinyl and the hassle of taking care of them to avoid pops and crackles and delay the inevitable wear.
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23 Jul 2014   #80
Jody Thornton

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Curious. I'm far from being a millennial and remember people referring to vinyls as vinyls to distinguish them from reel to reel, 8 tracks, and, later, when they first came out, CDs. I'm also amazed that people tout vinyls as being superior to digital because they have a "warmer" sound. That "warmer sound" is just distortion due to distortion and vinyl being unable to capture all details. One can achieve the same sound with high quality digital by filtering out some of the details and attenuating some of the highs. Big deal! I prefer the cleaner, more accurate sound one can get from digital and the freedom of needing huge amounts of space to store and play vinyl and the hassle of taking care of them to avoid pops and crackles and delay the inevitable wear.
Good to meet your acquaintance Ms Fitzgerald . You may have heard "vinyl" but I'm sure never as plural. If you did hear it as plural, trust me; it was an exceptional case. "Vinyls" is completely a 2007+ trend since the LPs "comeback". Of course I love how you used it every time last post...lol. My Dad who is 73 now says it that way, but never did so up to the end of the 80s. (By the way, there have been countless posts on audiokarma.org on this very subject, so I know I'm not remembering things incorrectly.)

I do agree on how we've seemed to bolster the LPs quality to beyond digital limits. The truth is at the very best of each format's attainable benchmarks, turntables and CD players sound more similar than different. During blind tests, many analog fans cite that well pressed records on a high-end table sound too digital for their tastes (that's funny), but it just means that with a good DAC, the digital version has the same solidity as a great LP or open-reel tape. And it means that a well reproduced LP can have the same crispness as a CD.

But yes, I'd agree in your stating that warmth may very well be distortion. I mean, since when did sound have a character? It's either accurately reproduced, or it's not.

Good speaking with you.


Cheers,
Jody
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