Microsoft exec admits new reality: Market share no longer 90%, it's 14

RoasterMen said:

Ughh. I won't bother playing games with touch screen, it's horrible.

You don't have to use the Modern GUI, the Desktop is almost exactly like Win7.

People who haven't used Win8 (more precisely 8.1 update 1) just don't know what they're talking about.

Iforgot said:

W8 should have been dual gui's, at least being simple to switch between the two.
Desktops for business would proceed as usual, tablet users could get accustomed to the new Metro concept.

That's exactly what Win8.1 update 1 is!

MS didn't miss the boat (unless you accept what Boozad said - they were late to the game (as usual)).
Every release of Windows has growing pains. No release was perfect right out of the door, none!

If you want to bash MS or Win8, that's your prerogative, but you shouldn't parrot bad information and misconceptions.

Install Win8.1 update 1 and then cite what you don't like. I think a lot of people will be surprised.

This really is my last post on the subject (I promise), there's no point in debating anyone that doesn't have first hand knowledge.

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They need to work out what they doing.

Ferrari has a tiny fraction, of the "automobile market".They only operate in a small sector - deliberately. You could call it the "luxury sports car market."

If you add cars buses, trucks and bicycles to get the "personal transport market", you get an entirely different picture.

It's me again. Layback Bear 3 brain cells tied behind my back.

I think most of us know Microsoft was a day late and a dollar short getting into the portable market in a meaningful way.
That was a management call.
I remember when IBM thought their would never be a PC market and Mr. Bill thought different. It happens.

Microsoft now has decided to get into the mobile market which I believe they should of been from the beginning.
It wasn't my call.

The part that I have a problem understanding is why does Microsoft think they have to abandon the stationary market. (PC's). I can't get my 3 brain cell wrapped around this idea. Their are large sums of money in both markets. Why not be in both markets in a big fashion. Microsoft has the money and technology to do both.

It reminds me of Windows Media Player.
Leaving it out of newer operating system just because many use 3rd party programs. DA, they use 3rd party programs because Microsoft hasn't updated the capability of WMP since Moses was wearing short pants.
Instead of fixing WMP they just through it away.
I would like to be able to go to a Microsoft site and be able to update WMP so I could use my two BluRay players with my store bought BluRay DVD's.

Instead of fixing things so Microsoft can be big in both portable and PC markets they seem to have decided to just through the PC market away in a somewhat slow fashion.
PC's will never go away if Microsoft has a corporate desire to keep PC's in their market plan.
The computing world is heading in a new direction like it always does. Who in the hell came up with the idea it could only go in one direction at a time. I think this thought pattern came from board rooms. It sure didn't come from consumers. Consumers want both; portable and PC's.

A perfect example is this forum and it's members.
John owns several Computer Help Forums and I would bet a dollar to a one legged tap dancer he also owns portable devices and know how to use both.
As a consumer we are allowed to buy into both markets and we do. I wonder how many members on this forum use both portable and PC's? One does not replace the other but instead (portable/PC) have the capability of working with each other as it should be.

Here is a example where two large companies want in both markets and are joining hands to do so.
http://www.zdnet.com/ibm-apple-forge...ad-7000031641/


My rant for the day.
Layback Bear

Layback Bear said:

It's me again. Layback Bear 3 brain cells tied behind my back.

I think most of us know Microsoft was a day late and a dollar short getting into the portable market in a meaningful way.
That was a management call.
I remember when IBM thought their would never be a PC market and Mr. Bill thought different. It happens.

Microsoft now has decided to get into the mobile market which I believe they should of been from the beginning.
It wasn't my call.

The part that I have a problem understanding is why does Microsoft think they have to abandon the stationary market. (PC's). I can't get my 3 brain cell wrapped around this idea. Their are large sums of money in both markets. Why not be in both markets in a big fashion. Microsoft has the money and technology to do both.

It reminds me of Windows Media Player.
Leaving it out of newer operating system just because many use 3rd party programs. DA, they use 3rd party programs because Microsoft hasn't updated the capability of WMP since Moses was wearing short pants.
Instead of fixing WMP they just through it away.
I would like to be able to go to a Microsoft site and be able to update WMP so I could use my two BluRay players with my store bought BluRay DVD's.

Instead of fixing things so Microsoft can be big in both portable and PC markets they seem to have decided to just through the PC market away in a somewhat slow fashion.
PC's will never go away if Microsoft has a corporate desire to keep PC's in their market plan.
The computing world is heading in a new direction like it always does. Who in the hell came up with the idea it could only go in one direction at a time. I think this thought pattern came from board rooms. It sure didn't come from consumers. Consumers want both; portable and PC's.

A perfect example is this forum and it's members.
John owns several Computer Help Forums and I would bet a dollar to a one legged tap dancer he also owns portable devices and know how to use both.
As a consumer we are allowed to buy into both markets and we do. I wonder how many members on this forum use both portable and PC's? One does not replace the other but instead (portable/PC) have the capability of working with each other as it should be.

Here is a example where two large companies want in both markets and are joining hands to do so.
IBM, Apple forge enterprise app pact: Watson, meet iPad | ZDNet


My rant for the day.
Layback Bear

I predict tablets (with docking stations) will replace PCs come Skylake CPUs. These little portable devices will be capable of decent gaming, CAD, 3D rendering to make Pixar movies, you name it. Microsoft sees this coming. If I was them, I'd do the same. Desktops/laptops will soon become extinct. Once again, you will have a small tablet with Skylake that can transform into a laptop or desktop if need be... Computers will just get smaller and smaller (the first computer was the size of a room). The size of the mini-tower desktops we have now will seem like dinosaurs to folks a few decades later!

Heck, I predict 50 years from now, tablets will die off too, to be replaced by computers the size of... You'll have a smart watch that can stream contents to a monitor. No need for clunky tablet-sized displays when the watch can also project a hologram with you interacting with the projected image via what we already currently have: 3D touch!

Include a blue tooth keyboard and you effectively have a desktop --- one that you can wear!