HP Laptop Power Cord Safety Recall and Replacement

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    King Arthur said:
    Honestly, and with no offense intended, that looks like something that goes past the realm of laziness/frugal and well into the lands of negligence.
    I have never seen anyone work quite as hard as he does. Really, I'm not kidding. He works from sun up to well into the evening ... he never seems to stop. Day after day ... but yes I agree, this is negligence. That receptacle needs replacing among other things and so does that contraption above the door... it's hideous and dangerous looking to me and it's exposed to the elements.
    Like I said; when it comes to some things around his own home, it's ...oh well...it can wait and yes my sister gets ticked.
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       #21

    ThrashZone said:
    One piece of advice,
    get Fire Insurance
    Second,
    Keep pictures of obvious issues like these as evidence in another location other than the fire trap your referring to
    Done.
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    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
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       #22

    Oh my, where to start?

    Elljay, Do not use anything in the receptacle in your first pix until it is replaced and even then nothing with a heavy current draw.
    The visible white wire appears to be colored yellow which means its been subjected to a current draw beyond its capacity rating, and if it is an outdoor receptacle it should have a Weatherproof Box/Cover to protect it from the elements.

    In your second pix it's hard to tell what Ben was trying to do.
    There are two different size conductor wires; One appears to be 12/2 with ground leading to and from the lamp (which should be replaced), and the other, a round 12/3 with ground, the 3 in 12/3 means that it has one more conductor wire than the 12/2, but there's an open end of 12/2 at the bottom of the loop of 12/3 he made that should be terminated properly, usually in a junction box.
    Even with a junction box the sheathing and wires should be striped back, separated, wire nuts applied to each, and electrical tape wrapped around each wire nut to secure them. I can't tell why or how he's using the 12/3.

    Some items to keep in mind:

    • The new power strip your sister got you, it should have a circuit breaker and surge protection built in, if it doesn't and its not too late, return it for one that does.


    • You could get a receptacle tester that can show you if the receptacle is wired properly. Mind though, the cheaper ones won't always indicate the quality of ground.


    • Ask your Sister or Ben, when the house addition was built if he added a load center or sub-feeder for the addition, and if he did, did he install a grounding rod for it. A weak or non-existent ground could be the another reason besides the four I already mentioned for the arcing/sparking problem.


    Ben needs to make time to go back over all his wiring, surely he has earned enough credits with helping others that he could ask around to have someone with electrical wiring experience come and take a look. How about someone from the docks where he keeps his boat?

    Have your sister tell Ben that's where you and her are staying until he sorts this out.
    Last edited by Anak; 11 Sep 2014 at 09:14. Reason: Cleaned up spelling errors.
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       #23

    Anak said:
    Oh my, where to start?
    Have your sister tell Ben that's where you and her are staying until he sorts this out.
    LOL! That would be fun. It's a great Sailboat. It's a 36' Catamaran.
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       #24

    New Cord


    I received my new HP cord today. :)
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       #25

    That's great!
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       #26

    Well, here's an update on Ben the handyman. I came up with this silly plan. Maybe it wasn't the best idea.
    I mentioned to my sister that she should ask Ben one more time to fix his wiring mess. So she did.
    She asked him to fix it or she would post it on Facebook for all the relatives and friends to see. So last week he rushed to fix it.
    Here is what he did. He threw up a cover so no one could see the wire mess anymore.
    He did fix the broken receptacle, although it looks a little crooked. He also fixed this light fixture above the receptacle. It used to hang off the wall. (I never took a photo of it) He put in one of those motion sensor lights. However, it really isn't needed there because the backyard is lit up like a Christmas tree anyways and... it doesn't work properly. He doesn't know that yet. I sit out there. If the light switch is turned on, every 5 seconds or so it will go off and then come on again. Off and on every few seconds without moving.
    So I just turn the light off.
    So the funny thing is that Ben doesn't know that neither my sister or I have a Facebook account.
    He doesn't have one either but he assumes everyone is on Facebook.
    Now I'm thinkin'... should've said call the Fire Chief to do an inspection.
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    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
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       #27

    Mornin' Elljay,

    Both improvements look better any sparkin' or arcin' at the receptacle?

    Some motion lights can be very sensitive to motion and infrared (body heat) and pick up on tree branches, leaves or animals, my neighbor has one like that. Ask Ben if he can lower the sensitivity of the sensor, most new ones have a rheostat for that purpose.

    It's good that you didn't call for a fire dept. inspection; In some jurisdictions, if the violations are serious enough they have the authority to condemn the home until repairs are made.

    You'd all be livin' on the boat.
    Last edited by Anak; 04 Nov 2014 at 06:40. Reason: Spelling.
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       #28

    Anak said:
    Mornin' Elljay,

    Both improvement look better any sparkin' or arcin' at the receptacle?

    Some motion lights can be very sensitive to motion and infrared (body heat) and pick up on tree branches, leaves or animals, my neighbor has one like that. Ask Ben if he can lower the sensitivity of the sensor, most new ones have a rheostat for that purpose.

    It's good that you didn't call for a fire dept. inspection; In some jurisdictions, if the violations are serious enough they have the authority to condemn the home until repairs are made.

    You'd all be livin' on the boat.
    Good morning Anak. Didn't know you were still up. This is late for you or you're up early.
    No, I would never do that to him anyways.
    Even if I did have a Facebook account, I wouldn't do that either.
    Yes it looks better.
    I don't know. I haven't plugged anything in there. He said it was fixed though.
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       #29

    I get up early, 'round 5am.

    You're a kindly soul, don't be too hard on 'ol Ben, he just needs gentle prodding now an then.

    Make sure you're ready for any surprises when you give the receptacle the smoke test, and have Ben check the sensitivity on the motion light, having it cycle every 5" or so is not a good thing.

    I'll be around for 'bout a half hour or so, getting ready to run errands
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