Windows 7's Unexpected 'Killer' Feature

Hi Kari,

I will answer you in PM.

People have the right to disagree. If you come to a forum and post something that is akin to a Rant then you have to expect to be brought to task for your remarks. As a member of my college debating team it was made abundantly clear that you had better be prepared for what you would be facing from the other teams.

To criticize someone for answering another's rant is in reality against the rules. Do not post a rant or an opinion if you are not looking for a debate. To post something that is going to bring about a debate is to expect a come back. Beside a debate is a good thing. It helps bring out something to both sides; both sides can learn from a debate even one that gets heated.

I love a good debate, and this has been just that a good debate. So for "Pete Sake" allow the debate to go on; you who criticize may just learn something.

It's my experiance that when a vehicle gets to be about four years old they develope little minor rattles and and the vehicle is just not like new. I like new stuff and trade each of my three vehicles every four years.
Every time I install XP, guess what? It's new, it's familliar, it's solid.
I was quite excited when I got 7 and still am. I really like the OS and the Hybrid sleep issue is not that big for me. I do think that it's occurance is to common and should have been better addressed.
I'm not giving a market analysis, I just predecting what I feel the success rate of 7 will be. I think it will take time before the average user feels the need to change.
People posting to this forum are not average computer users. Average computer users are on facebook and ebay while you are reading this. Average computer users have never even seen a forum like this. Most people don't want to spend $200.00 if they don't feel the money is going to enhance their quality of life. For these people XP/Win7 will make no difference.

Good night Keri

Thank you, that was great.
I agree whole heartedly that it is time to switch OS's for a veriaty of reasons.
I believe Windows 7 will pave the way and is an excellent OS.
I also believe that XP will not die a quick death and for the reasons I pointed out in my first post. More likely is that it will simply fade into obscurity as people buy new systems with 7 preloaded rather then upgrade.:)
It's time for me to switch and I have. As for my wife, it's her choice and if momma's happy everybody's happy.

Lee said:

People have the right to disagree. If you come to a forum and post something that is akin to a Rant then you have to expect to be brought to task for your remarks. As a member of my college debating team it was made abundantly clear that you had better be prepared for what you would be facing from the other teams.

To criticize someone for answering another's rant is in reality against the rules. Do not post a rant or an opinion if you are not looking for a debate. To post something that is going to bring about a debate is to expect a come back. Beside a debate is a good thing. It helps bring out something to both sides; both sides can learn from a debate even one that gets heated.

I love a good debate, and this has been just that a good debate. So for "Pete Sake" allow the debate to go on; you who criticize may just learn something.

Hi Lee,

As I am not against any debate, I will underline the heart of my post, because from your comment I can see you clearly misunderstood the point.

I never stated we can't disagree, debate and argue.
On the contrary, that is exactly what we should do!
But arguing is done by posting arguments, and with a certain common decency and politeness.

When an OP bashes Win7, he or she bashes an OS, a thing, not a person.
He or she is not addressing any person here in particular, but vents his or her frustration, and yes it's often caused by his or her own ignorance.

But if we jump in and start bashing the OP, we are bashing a person.
We make it a personal thing.

There is a big difference!

We as core members, powerusers and especially gurus, have a responsibility to keep it civil.
We shouldn't degrade ourselves and this forum to the level of some user who only joins to vent his frustration.

If a post is totally out of line, we can report it to the mods.

In the case of Xzaviar, where this debate started, it was our members who overreacted a bit.
I read the guy's post multiple times, and other than the too large font type, and he him self saying it was a rant, I see nothing wrong with his post.
It was a well argumented post, regardless of whether we agree or not.

Zid called him a troll (for which he apologized, he's a great guy), and then a few of my other friends jumped on it.

I felt compelled to stick up for Xzaviar, and remind my friends to keep it a debate.
Win7 is not our baby, although we sometimes act as it is.

I hope this clears things up.

Greetings.

Michel

Debates sometimes go into directions that may not be expected. Sometimes you have to just set on the sideline and only observe. The players need to be allowed to go into the directions they are attempting; this allows both parties to get their points out in the open. Allowing the debaters to finish what they have to say is an important step in a debate. The idea behind the debate is to see if both parties can bring their points to the for front. A debate does not necessarily have to bring about a winner only that both were allowed to get their point across to those who were observing the debate.

Sometimes debates can get a little to heated, albeit it is not my place nor anyone else to step in (unless it becomes bloody:)). You have to allow the process to go forward. Also remember this is being done on a forum where the individuals involve are not going to come to blows. Even if they call each other names it is hurting only them especially in the eyes of their follow forum members.

Wow, I was reading for a really long time. Very interesting and a few laughs. While the whole article was about windows "Killer" features. It was nice to see someone point out why they like Windows XP, simple because it works. I quit using xp as soon as vista came out, and while i hated for dear life vista, it still felt way better then xp. No errors, okay tons of errors came up, but because i was messing with it. With XP errors popped out for no reason, even in SP3.

I do however think, Windows 7 is going to start kicking in faster despite this economic downturn, a lot of friends and others alike have been asking me about Windows 7 and how is it. Even people with Mac OSX have been asking since their sick of not be able to do anything, since it doesn't give them as much control for things.( Go figure)

Aside from that windows 7 is much more friendlier for first time users and while it make take time for some since the task-bar. I actually carry a laptop and let them play with it since its loaded with windows 7 and people like it. I should be a traveling windows 7 salesman lol.

Seriously though, people are liking it and will just buy a new computer and it will come with it. The average user wont be bothered to to change back to xp, to much of a hassle, so they will get used to it. (kind of how the avg person doesnt care what the gov. does) Love it hate it, windows 7 is here to stay !