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Windows 7: Jan. 13 marks the end of mainstream support for Windows 7

15 Mar 2015   #101
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fireberd View Post
Windows XP, as many Windows Secrets readers know, passed its "End of extended support" date on April 8, 2014. It has not had official updates of any kind since.
Funny, I have a couple of xp boxes that got a handfull of updates last week.


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15 Mar 2015   #102
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Clock and control panel have not changed in win-10 "so far" from 7's only one less listing in control panel which is windows update.

10's start button is controversial in 9926 I believe all prior builds had a better concept for the left column all apps now is ridiculously long when Microsoft added 26 letters to it.
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15 Mar 2015   #103
Jody Thornton

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

Hi JaviAl:

I agree that it appears the desktop seems to be taking a backseat to Microsoft's mobility plans, and I also am NOT a big fan of Windows 10. And yes, there are still $2000 desktops (they're called high-end workstations). However, I think we have to look at what we can glean from Microsoft's path and understand why it's the right thing to do.

If it were our world, Microsoft would concentrate its efforts on what made it famous; continuing to foster and develop a top notch desktop. But by doing that, you're basically limiting yourself to the enterprise. You know, a lot of people actually hated using computers even up to the last decade (they only stuck with it to access MP3s, YouTube videos and the Internet). To many of them though, being on the PC felt to them like being at work. So while many people in 2009 and 2010 migrated from XP to Windows 7, you what most people migrated to when XP finally ran out of steam last year? iOS and Android.

Most people NEVER cared to run full applications on a desktop. They had to because that document needed printing, or that email was in Outlook. Now they can just read, share, listen and play on their tablet and phone. This is where ALL of the action is. And Microsoft is not going to sit by and not be part of it. Do you think they should JaviAl?

Now to be fair, as much I am not all that excited about Windows 10, it is still VERY MUCH a desktop OS. Yes it's simpler looking, but back ten years ago, everyone complained that Vista and 7 were too bloated with Aero, so they took out the glass element (Aero is in fact still in 8x and 10 TP). But the two newest Windows releases are far more stable than ever before. So there are less BSODs (which you cited provides less detail - what average user needs to know the segment address? Besides, maybe Microsoft support has other ways to gather the needed info without scaring the user)

What is it about 10 TP that is "less" desktop? Certainly it is a hybrid environment, but the Metro/Modern stuff is where Microsoft is going. Yes I know about less customization (that bugs me a bit too) but it is a functional desktop.
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15 Mar 2015   #104
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Their will alway be those that don't like a new operating system. That is not new.
The likes and dislikes will very from user to user. That also is not new.

I haven't made up my mind. It might be because I haven't spent enough time using it.
Window 10 does many things that I just don't care about.
Now that doesn't mean that others are the same way or should be.
We all will just have to make our own choice on what operating systems we use.

I have nothing bad to say about W-10. So far it doesn't add anything that I care about or want as far as I can find at this time.

I really don't care if it is free for a time period.
I don't want to talk to my computers.
I have no need for syncing a bunch of toys to my computers.
Their will always be 3rd party programs to change appearances if I so choose to but I would rather not use such programs.

I keep asking myself what does W-10 give me that I want or need.
That is what I will base my decision on when I do make a decision.

So far I have a extra Windows 7/64 Pro waiting for my next build when ever I decide to do a new build. My systems cost a lot of money so it will be awhile before the next build.
Windows 7 will assure that a new build will have a chance of working properly and in my eyes Windows 10 is still a maybe.
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15 Mar 2015   #105
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Their will alway be those that don't like a new operating system. That is not new.
The likes and dislikes will very from user to user. That also is not new.

I haven't made up my mind. It might be because I haven't spent enough time using it.
Window 10 does many things that I just don't care about.
Now that doesn't mean that others are the same way or should be.
We all will just have to make our own choice on what operating systems we use.

I have nothing bad to say about W-10. So far it doesn't add anything that I care about or want as far as I can find at this time.

I really don't care if it is free for a time period.
I don't want to talk to my computers.
I have no need for syncing a bunch of toys to my computers.
Their will always be 3rd party programs to change appearances if I so choose to but I would rather not use such programs.

I keep asking myself what does W-10 give me that I want or need.
That is what I will base my decision on when I do make a decision.

So far I have a extra Windows 7/64 Pro waiting for my next build when ever I decide to do a new build. My systems cost a lot of money so it will be awhile before the next build.
Windows 7 will assure that a new build will have a chance of working properly and in my eyes Windows 10 is still a maybe.

I agree
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15 Mar 2015   #106
JaviAl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

[QUOTE=Kari;3024503]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JaviAl View Post
  • Shadow copies work as previously, the File History feature needs a little bit work from the user as it only keeps copies of files Libraries, Desktop, Contacts and favorites. In order to get a folder to use File history it needs to be included in a library. Easy and fast to do.

Please go to the Microsoft website and read that Persitent Shadow Copies is no longer available in Windows 8.x. Windows 10 also has no Shadow Copies. Also search for "Windows 8 Shadow. You're talking without knowing what you say. And without document yourself. Also probably you dont know what Persistent Shadow Copies are and how to use it.


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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JaviAl View Post
Your screenshot examples really take the price! I hereby award you the Grand Price 2015 for "The Most Misleading Screenshots Ever Included In A Post to Give Users False Information On Purpose". You show screenshots from Date & Time and Ease of Access in Seven, complaining that in Windows 10 they look different showing the screenshots of an ALTERNATIVE way to do the same things in 10 as proof, totally "forgetting" to mention that of course the same functions in 10 can be done exactly the same way as in Seven, Windows 10 only adding another way to access the same features, the GUI for these built-in Windows tools looking exactly as they look in Seven.
Yes, those screen see the on Windows 7 and Windows 8.x and Windows 10. But Microsoft is migrating all programs, applications and Control Panel Settings to app "Settings". Can you show me the same Windows 7 Windows Update screen in Windows 10? Can you show me the same Windows 7 Calculator in Windows 10?

Problably, in the final build (RTM) of Windows 10, will imposible to see the same Windows 7 Settings screenshots that i put in Windows 10. Microsoft is migrating all.

I talk and share opinions with thousands of users and IT Managers that thniks the same:

Enough with the microsoft account. Enough. - Microsoft Community

The UI is so UGLY an there are no options to change this. - Microsoft Community

The UI is so UGLY an there are no options to change this. - Microsoft Community

These are the most voted posts on the official Microsoft Insider Program for the Windows 10 Preview (Beta).

Sorry but i'm not giving users false information. Is documented, shared and disusses with thousands of people.

Because you are talking without knowing what you say, without document yourself and according to your language and the way of expressing yourself (you are discrediting yourself) I have nothing more to discuss with you.
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15 Mar 2015   #107
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

I see JaviAl does have a point. JaviAl you don't have to upgrade to windows 10. You can keep your current system even after extended support ends in 2020. I am still undecided myself if I am going to upgrade to windows 10.
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16 Mar 2015   #108
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JaviAl View Post
But Microsoft is migrating all programs, applications and Control Panel Settings to app "Settings". Can you show me the same Windows 7 Windows Update screen in Windows 10?
Yep.

Jan. 13 marks the end of mainstream support for Windows 7-w10-windows-update.jpg

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Sorry but i'm not giving users false information.
It appears that you are, see above.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JaviAl View Post
Because you are talking without knowing what you say
It appears that you are, see above.


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16 Mar 2015   #109
Gary

Win 10 Pro 64
 
 

What people got with Windows 7 was an OS that can and it Customized to the users liking. What they do not want is a fugly OS that comes in a plain brown wrapper. If Windows 10 looks anything at all like 8, it will fail.
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16 Mar 2015   #110
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

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