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Windows 7: Jan. 13 marks the end of mainstream support for Windows 7

20 Mar 2015   #111
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I will keep it clean Boss.

I just downloaded and installed the new update for W-10. I'm not impressed but I will download the next update and see what happens.

When Microsoft is going to allow counterfeit Window 7 update to Windows 10 says a lot to me.

So lets take a look

1. Microsoft is going to let people use W-10 for free.
2. Microsoft is going to let people that stole W-7 use it to get a legal copy of W-10 and use it.

All I'm doing is waiting for Windows 10 that I think is worth buying.

If what I have read Window 10 will be able to do a lot of things that I don't want or need. That is okay with me. They won't make me use the things I don't want to, I hope.

I'm just looking for a better way of doing the things I do want and have today with Windows 7.

#1. doesn't cover me because I want to buy a W-10 DVD that Microsoft makes and keep it until I die.
#2. doesn't cover me because I don't have any stolen Windows operating systems or any other stolen programs.

So far people like me are just left in the dark.
That being said I haven't given up.


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20 Mar 2015   #112
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I've given up until around June-July to see what's going on in 10tp
There's really nothing there I like or need in 10tp.
Hell I might even wait as long as final release and go through the windows update route from win-8.1 to 10

But as far as kicking the tires before final :/ all I have is one test hdd if it dies I go bye-bye with both 8.1 and 10
7 forever and Linux
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21 Mar 2015   #113
Kari

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
When Microsoft is going to allow counterfeit Window 7 update to Windows 10 says a lot to me.

So lets take a look

1. Microsoft is going to let people use W-10 for free.
2. Microsoft is going to let people that stole W-7 use it to get a legal copy of W-10 and use it.

All I'm doing is waiting for Windows 10 that I think is worth buying.
Microsoft has clarified the earlier statement, see the highlighted part in below quote:

Quote:
Update: A Microsoft spokesperson clarified in a statement to Polygon that the upgrade to Windows 10 will "not change the genuine state of the license," meaning non-genuine copies of the operating system will continue to be non-genuine.

The consumer free upgrade offer for Windows 10 applies to qualified new and existing devices running Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1. Some editions are excluded from the consumer free upgrade — including Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to other Windows 10 enterprise offerings.

We have always been committed to ensuring that customers have the best Windows experience possible. With Windows 10, although non-Genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license. Non-Genuine Windows is not published by Microsoft. It is not properly licensed, or supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner. If a device was considered non-genuine or mislicensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mislicensed after the upgrade. According to industry experts, use of pirated software, including Non-Genuine Windows, results in a higher risk of malware, fraud (identity theft, credit card theft, etc), public exposure of your personal information, and a higher risk for poor performance or feature malfunctions.
Read more: Windows 10 will be a free upgrade even if you pirated Windows (update) | Polygon
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21 Mar 2015   #114
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Thanks Kari for the update from Microsoft.

I still don't understand why Microsoft would want a bunch of Non-Genuine Windows 10 all around the world. Some how this strategy is not sinking into my 3 brain cells.

To me all it is telling people using counterfeit Windows 7 that Microsoft don't care if they use counterfeit copies. Hell Microsoft likes counterfeit copies so much they are going to give up a new counterfeit copy of Windows 10.

Non-Genuine = counterfeit.
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21 Mar 2015   #115
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

That does sound pretty odd = anything for numbers I guess
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21 Mar 2015   #116
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Thanks Kari for the update from Microsoft.

I still don't understand why Microsoft would want a bunch of Non-Genuine Windows 10 all around the world.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
That does sound pretty odd = anything for numbers I guess
I think this is quite clear and not odd in any way. For the upgrade process to work as painless as possible for the majority of users, the honest ones, Microsoft cannot make it too complicated. This almost automatically means that if a pirate has managed to work around the validity and authenticity checks with the underlying older Windows, the pirated OS might be possible to be upgraded.

It's kind of funny how this is becoming a Catch 22 situation for Windows 10 opponents: If the authenticity checks were so vigorous as needed to be sure not a single pirated 7 or 8 could be upgraded, it would involve procedures and steps which would cause these users to start complaining how difficult the upgrade is made. On the other hand, if and when Microsoft chooses a bit more open approach which might let some pirates to get their pirated 7 or 8 upgraded, this is used by the opponents also against Microsoft as "This is wrong, why should it be allowed".

A lose -lose situation for Microsoft regarding these opposing users; whichever option of the two available ones they choose, the opponents will tell the other one had been the right one.
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21 Mar 2015   #117
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Still pretty odd,
Microsoft doesn't think these same pirates have a clone of the same 7 or 8 sitting around
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21 Mar 2015   #118
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Just my opinion so don't beat up on me.

I see no way counterfeit copies of Windows 7, 8 or 10 is going to do Microsoft or legal users of their products any good.
The more counterfeit copies of Windows means the higher the price of legally bought Windows to compensate for the loss of revenue for the stolen copies.
I guess their is something to say; when millions want to steal your product it must be good.
All I'm looking for is Windows 10 worth buying.

Oh well it's Microsoft's call.
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21 Mar 2015   #119
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Personally it doesn't bother me. Even if MS was charging for the upgrade, the pirates would still figure out how to get it.
So I will take my FREE upgrades and move on.

Jim
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21 Mar 2015   #120
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Still pretty odd,
Microsoft doesn't think these same pirates have a clone of the same 7 or 8 sitting around
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Just my opinion so don't beat up on me.

I see no way counterfeit copies of Windows 7, 8 or 10 is going to do Microsoft or legal users of their products any good.
The more counterfeit copies of Windows means the higher the price of legally bought Windows to compensate for the loss of revenue for the stolen copies.
I guess their is something to say; when millions want to steal your product it must be good.
All I'm looking for is Windows 10 worth buying.

Oh well it's Microsoft's call.
This is becoming really funny although I have to admit there's some logics behind this: As Microsoft took away your possibility to complain about the high cost of this "worst ever" Windows upgrade, you have to find the reasons for complaints elsewhere.

Keep complaining, it does not change the fact that for the first year after its release the Windows 10 upgrade will be free for those users running a legit Seven or Eight. Sadly, by doing the upgrade free and easy to manage for us honest users also means some pirates might get the 10 free, too.

Really geeks, are you running out of fuel?
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