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Windows 7: Jan. 13 marks the end of mainstream support for Windows 7

21 Mar 2015   #131
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

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Which is more important from the consumer's point of view, making the upgrade so secure and difficult that for 100% sure no pirated Seven or Eight could be upgraded, or make the upgrade process extremely easy which includes the risk that some pirates might get it, too?
I'd have thought just making the upgrade available to people with qualifying product keys would have been pretty simple, you submit your key and receive a W10 license. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, I don't know. Microsoft have been so tight on piracy in the past I personally don't see the benefit of them allowing pirated copies to be 'upgraded'.

And this isn't a dig at Windows 10 being free either, I think it's a great move for all the legitimate copies out there.


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21 Mar 2015   #132
Lady Fitzgerald

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It just seem strange when the whole legal computing world is fighting counterfeiting, Microsoft puts their approval stamp on counterfeit Windows operating system. I don't care how one paints that picture, it's a blur to me.

Maybe counterfeit Microsoft Office will be next.
In my opinion that is totally wrong interpreted. Microsoft does not approve the pirates now any more than before. It's in my opinion just as simple as I said in my previous posts: the upgrade process is such that it unfortunately might make it possible for some pirates to get the Ten free...
That makes far more sense than M$ deliberately allowing pirated copies to upgrade.
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22 Mar 2015   #133
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Simple:

Microsoft offers windows 10 for free. Anyone that know about it upgrades. The savvy users who know about it are mostly pirates with malware. Upgrade to free version of 10, malware (possibly) gone. Less malware-more happy customers everywhere.

For every pc infected, it usually effects 5 others. It is a malware war essentially.

It also is a way to monitor the pirated users, as windows 10 has super tracking built in. Eula states it, and even not signing up for microsofts stuff you will still be tracked now more then ever before.

Windows 10 is the starting of a locked garden like apple. To reduce malware, as official stores are where common users will get there apps. Those apps will be screened and less prone to inducing malware.

This is not a bad thing entirely, less malware is always a good thing.

Privacy however has not existed for awhile on the internet, but now OS themselves are now starting to implement spyware like behaviors in the name of making things more convenient.

Windows is also struggling in the market as a whole. They want users on a single version, as it is easier to deal with. They want to get away from the similar issues android is facing with fragmentation.

Honestly, windows 10 is a important step for Microsoft. IT will increase the companies reputation as a whole with the general public, and hopefully will draw some users back to windows.

IMHO, it will not matter. Most Users have discovered there cell phones do everything they can and need, and will not likely have pc's capable of running windows 10. And they will not upgrade. I know plenty of people that just got rid of all there actual computers and just have phones now.

And until malware increases mega jumps on the mobiles more often, they will keep using those instead.
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22 Mar 2015   #134
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Andrew this is a good point to a point.

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It also is a way to monitor the pirated users, as windows 10 has super tracking built in. Eula states it, and even not signing up for microsofts stuff you will still be tracked now more then ever before.
Tracking the thieves and then telling them. Things are cool, please get another counterfeit copy of Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 10.
Because in my mind that is exactly what is going to happen.
The damn thieves and crooks are smart.

If Microsoft has to promote counterfeiting to get Windows 10 on the street their is a problem. It's that simple to me.
It's nothing against Windows 10, it's just Microsoft's methods.
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22 Mar 2015   #135
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

I suspect that when pirate versions of W10 "hit the market" all of the "official spyware" will be disabled/redirected.
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23 Mar 2015   #136
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Some may not know their system is not genuine. Their buddy down the street, friend, family member etc, "fixed it up for them". They'll upgrade thinking all is good. They may get peeved, but then again they may go legal when they figure out what was done. Lots of different scenarios good or bad can happen. On the plus side I would think it makes upgrading easier. And as mentioned, systems that were compromised before the upgrade, will likely be more secure after. I'm sure exploits will be scanned for and killed during the upgrade. Compromised system files will be replaced with the new Windows 10 system files. Then let those users buy into Windows 10 for a low price and get legal and safe systems.
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23 Mar 2015   #137
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Let me see if I understand this plan of attack by Microsoft that some are posting about.

Some people will find out their W-7 is counterfeit and they didn't know.
That for sure can and does happen.
What does Microsoft say? We no longer care about counterfeit, here is a free counterfeit copy of Windows 10 to replace your counterfeit copy of Windows 7.

A counterfeit copy of W-10 is going to make the internet safer compared to a counterfeit copy of W-7 because their will be less infection. Well that would be true if the people that new they had a counterfeit copy of W-7 and now have a counterfeit copy of W-10 would stop downloading and stealing programs, movies, music and games and getting infected.
Does that sound like something that going to happen.

I like this one.
Once people have a counterfeit copy of W-10 they will start buying apps. from the Microsoft app store. I don't think that need any more comments.

**So now, all the people that stole Windows 7, programs, movies, music and games are going to have a life changing experience to being as honest as they can be because they now are using a counterfeit copy of Windows 10 that was given to them by Microsoft.

I really do wish that that happens but I'm not putting any money on it happening.

I wish Microsoft would of given Windows 7 away.
We would have less operating system thieves.
The computing world now be safer from malware and virus because Windows 7 was free.
Now the computer world be as happy as young children at Disneyland.

This has nothing to do with how good or bad Windows 10 is now or will be.
This has nothing to do with the price or being free for a year.

This has everything to with Microsoft putting their stamp of approval on counterfeiting.
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23 Mar 2015   #138
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Smell test :/
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23 Mar 2015   #139
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Let me see if I understand this plan of attack by Microsoft that some are posting about.

Some people will find out their W-7 is counterfeit and they didn't know.
That for sure can and does happen.
What does Microsoft say? We no longer care about counterfeit, here is a free counterfeit copy of Windows 10 to replace your counterfeit copy of Windows 7.

A counterfeit copy of W-10 is going to make the internet safer compared to a counterfeit copy of W-7 because their will be less infection. Well that would be true if the people that new they had a counterfeit copy of W-7 and now have a counterfeit copy of W-10 would stop downloading and stealing programs, movies, music and games and getting infected.
Does that sound like something that going to happen.

I like this one.
Once people have a counterfeit copy of W-10 they will start buying apps. from the Microsoft app store. I don't think that need any more comments.

**So now, all the people that stole Windows 7, programs, movies, music and games are going to have a life changing experience to being as honest as they can be because they now are using a counterfeit copy of Windows 10 that was given to them by Microsoft.

I really do wish that that happens but I'm not putting any money on it happening.

I wish Microsoft would of given Windows 7 away.
We would have less operating system thieves.
The computing world now be safer from malware and virus because Windows 7 was free.
Now the computer world be as happy as young children at Disneyland.

This has nothing to do with how good or bad Windows 10 is now or will be.
This has nothing to do with the price or being free for a year.

This has everything to with Microsoft putting their stamp of approval on counterfeiting.
It's not a counterfeit version of Windows 10. Where did you get that from? The way I read it, it will be just like any other install except not activated. Trial mode with a generic key that won't activate is my bet. You will eventually have to buy a license to make it genuine and activated to keep using it.
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23 Mar 2015   #140
ThrashZone

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