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Windows 7: Microsoft: An Open Source Windows Is ‘Definitely Possible’

03 Apr 2015   #1
Brink

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Microsoft: An Open Source Windows Is ‘Definitely Possible’

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Microsoft’s software empire rests on Windows, the computer operating system that runs so many of the world’s desktop PCs, laptops, phones, and servers. Along with the Office franchise, it generates the majority of the company’s revenues. But one day, the company could “open source” the code that underpins the OS—giving it away for free. So says Mark Russinovich, one of the company’s top engineers.

“It’s definitely possible,” Russinovich says. “It’s a new Microsoft.”

Russinovich is sitting in front of several hundred people who spend their days running thousands of computers. He helped build Windows, and he carries one of the most respected titles at the world’s largest software company: Microsoft Technical Fellow. But here, on stage at a conference in Silicon Valley, he’s perched in front of an audience whose relationship with Microsoft is, at best, complicated.

The conference is called ChefConf. Chef is a tool that helps tech geeks setup and operate the many machines needed to drive a website, smartphone app, or some other piece of business software. It’s an open source tool, which means it’s typically used alongside other open source software. When Russinovich asks how many in the audience use nothing but Windows to run their machines, one guy raises his hand—one guy out of several hundred. Mostly, they run the open source Linux operating system.
But this is what Russinovich expects. “That’s the reality we live in today,” he says. The tech world has changed in enormous ways. So many companies—so many Microsoft customers—are now relying on open source code. And that means Microsoft must embrace it too. As Russinovich points out, the company now allows Linux on its Azure cloud computing service, a way of renting computers over the internet, and today, Linux is running on at least 20 percent of those computers.

It’s quite a change for Microsoft, so long the bete noir of the open source community. But as Russinovich explains, it’s a necessary change. And given how popular Linux has become, Microsoft could go even further, not only allowing open source software on its cloud services, but actually turning Windows into open source software. “Every conversation you can imagine about what should we do with our software—open versus not-open versus services—has happened,” he says.
Read more: Microsoft: An Open Source Windows Is | WIRED


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03 Apr 2015   #2
Anshad Edavana

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I would say giving Windows for free will kill the classic Windows experience we loves. Since MS is not a charity foundation but a company which should make a profit, it will start charging for every single service they are offering. Basic OS will be free of charge but most of the important functions will be cloud dependent. That is the root MS is currently going - they started with forced MS live account creation in Win 8.x and the upcoming Win 10 is more dependent to net and cloud services than ever. I think most probably MS will give "Win 10" for free to laptop/tablet manufacturers - like the "Windows 8.1 with Bing" version but on a much larger scale to prevent people from exploring and be familiar with open source alternatives.
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03 Apr 2015   #3
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Microsoft will swamp the ship to get on every bodies phone, laptops and tablet.

Just to suck them into Microsoft cloud dependencie. They don't care how you get to their cloud as long as you get there.

Now grab your socks and open you pocket book. Windows operating systems will become a lost leader item for Microsoft and it will suck billions of people into their cloud and app store.
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03 Apr 2015   #4
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Stuck In Open Source Land

Here is one cat that isn't going. They will have to outlaw private disks and boards and open source goes away.
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03 Apr 2015   #5
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Microsoft will swamp the ship to get on every bodies phone, laptops and tablet.
I looked into Windows Phone this week as my contract runs out in a few months and I'm desperate to get away from iPhone. I looked at the Lumia 930 and convinced myself I liked it, I took the tour on the MS website and eventually thought it would be a good idea.
I then looked into apps, I don't use many but my HSBC Mobile banking one is a must. And there isn't one for my region. Pretty unbelievable.
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I looked further into it and found one thread on the MS Community Forums (for the life of me I can't find it again) and one guy complained about his HSBC app not working, as well as many streaming apps. Apparently MS don't support Silverlight on the phones but the apps require it. The OP was told by a moderator to contact the app developers as MS aren't responsible for keeping apps up to date. So MS aren't responsible for Silverlight on Windows phones.

If MS can't be bothered with Windows Phone, neither can I. Shame as I hate Android so will be stuck with the iPhone which, while deplorable (even if just for the price alone), just works.


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04 Apr 2015   #6
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

iphones just work
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04 Apr 2015   #7
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

So does anything else, including android

Boozad, if you hate android try a custom rom or something and see if you like it.

What is it you don't like?
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04 Apr 2015   #8
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Long story short, I kept getting warning signs in the notification area (Sony Xperia T I think) and I'd discover that my Google account had stopped working. Easy workaround would be to delete my account then add it again. One day it just stopped working altogether and wouldn't accept my password, I signed into my Google account on the PC so knew the password was correct. I changed my details online but still I couldn't sign in on my phone. I tried for two weeks to get it to work with no support offered by either Google or Android so I sold it. I couldn't download anything so it was no good to me.

Also once I found my photos had been duplicated between two different photo apps (or a photo app and file manager) so I deleted one set only to find that it deleted everything. The whole thing just seemed like a mess and was completely convoluted. I have a Droid Player now and I don't like that either. The whole OS seems ridiculously complicated for a phone and there seemed to be stacks of bloatware in the form of multiple apps that did the same thing that you couldn't delete.
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05 Apr 2015   #9
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Well if I had that experience I would feel the same way ha.

Have you ever tried any of the nexus phones? There android without any bloatware and have a ton of options if you do not want to mess with roms. If you have a spare android laying around though that you hated, try cyangenmod rom. This way if you do mess it up (hard to do) no harm no foul.

I am pretty confident you would like it.
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05 Apr 2015   #10
Jody Thornton

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anshad Edavana View Post
I would say giving Windows for free will kill the classic Windows experience we loves. Since MS is not a charity foundation but a company which should make a profit, it will start charging for every single service they are offering. Basic OS will be free of charge but most of the important functions will be cloud dependent.
But see, the advantage of Open Source for me is not how it will affect my use of other Microsoft services (I only use their mail, which I can ditch at any moment). What I want to see happen is the fueling of new life in to projects like React OS. Now you'd be able to have a fully supported, lighter weighted OS that will run Windows binaries without bloat. Now you can have that classic "windows" look and feel on a modern-day supported OS.

That's why I like this news. Who cares about Microsoft?
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