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Windows 7: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

10 Jun 2015   #71
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

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Forced automatic updates sounds quite risky... remember those updates that rendered Windows 8 unusable or gave Black Screens? And what about those updates for Windows 7 that did almost the same?... If this happens with Windows 10, Microsoft will pay for that error...

I hope they get back at their senses...
What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.
Pretty much the same fear I have, sadly... This could mean shoving into our throats a totally annoying tablet mode for desktops once we are all trapped in this...


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10 Jun 2015   #72
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

For me, the automatic updates would be a showstopper. I would never use such a system as my workhorse. We know how often they have bricked Windows with an update and there is no reason to believe that this will not happen in the future. People make mistakes - that is quite normal. Imposing automatic updates is one of them.
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10 Jun 2015   #73
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
Forced automatic updates sounds quite risky... remember those updates that rendered Windows 8 unusable or gave Black Screens? And what about those updates for Windows 7 that did almost the same?... If this happens with Windows 10, Microsoft will pay for that error...

I hope they get back at their senses...
What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.
Pretty much the same fear I have, sadly... This could mean shoving into our throats a totally annoying tablet mode for desktops once we are all trapped in this...
To no control over added features or GUI changes. I have a feeling I'm not going to like some of the changes. Time will tell. I can easily just go back to 8.1 if it happens that they change something and I really don't like it.
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10 Jun 2015   #74
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post

What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.
Pretty much the same fear I have, sadly... This could mean shoving into our throats a totally annoying tablet mode for desktops once we are all trapped in this...
To no control over added features or GUI changes. I have a feeling I'm not going to like some of the changes. Time will tell. I can easily just go back to 8.1 if it happens that they change something and I really don't like it.
alphanumeric
Do you know how often windows 10 consumer build release will be? If it is once a month there could be issues with people that have slow high speed and bandwidth limits. A build release should be released every year not every month with the option to roll back if there is issues. Otherwise, I can see sites popping up on how to block windows update using the host file or third party software.
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10 Jun 2015   #75
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

I don't know anymore than you do. I haven't been privy to any secrete Microsoft insider info, if that's what your wondering. Even if I was, as an MVP, I'm bound by my NDA, non disclosure agreement, so I can't comment on it until somebody else leaks it. At the moment though, I don't know anything that falls under "I wish I could tell" anyway.
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24 Jun 2015   #76
newpgm

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I'm no Guru (D'oh) like others here but I did sleep at Holiday Inn Express last night

As an average user I wonder if MS & Google (other tech giants) realize what the average user community wants? Have been following some threads related to Outlook & Skype on MS Answers forum & there are some very angry users out there. For years this has been an issue, MS apparently not listening to the community. We don't all use Skype.

Hotmail was a fantastic product, one of MS's best. We were forced onto Outlook.

It appears Outlook.com on my Android is going away in favor of Microsoft Outlook. Most reviews I have read for Microsoft Outlook are bad. MS bought Acompli & now must make use of it. Check out the comments on the App Store, many people complaining of loss of functionality.

Windows 10 has very little appeal for me, feel like I just became comfortable with Win 7 in the past couple years. Did not install Win 7 until it had been out for a while. Win Vista wasn't that bad, of course not nearly as good as Win 7. I am always behind the in-crowd. Many of my relatives still run XP & are in no hurry to upgrade. They don't like change.
Just read another post here that the US Navy is paying to extend the life of XP. My dentist still runs XP

Even Google is now screwing with my Google+ page & it's annoying. Not to mention they are also trying to force us onto Hangouts, Google Chat worked great. Better than Hangouts for my purposes.

My point, thru all the whining, is how tedious. Not all of us have time to keep up with this constant barrage of change. Life gets in the way.

I have been installing Linux/Ubuntu systems on older (XP) PC's for some time now. It works great for email, surfing & online shopping. Of course there are still things I need Windows to run but for a second PC it's great. Bit too much "Aw, Snap!" but hey for an OS they only ask a $16 donation to download

While watching Mr. Robot last night found it somewhat amusing that I actually could keep up the discussion = Gnome desktop, root directory, DNS references, et al. that I suspect was supposed to wow the audience. Perhaps I too can be a Guru one day
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24 Jun 2015   #77
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

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Hotmail was a fantastic product, one of MS's best. We were forced onto Outlook.
I was on Hotmail for several years before MS bought it. They spiffed up the interface a bit and increased the storage. Otherwise it is basically the same except for the demand for a mobile phone number to maintain access to the account you have had for years.

Since many free WiFi providers block ftp OneDrive lets me back up when it would otherwise not be possible. But for the email part all that was really needed was to increase the storage allotment as everything online gets bigger over time including attachments.

If you keep Linuxin' on down you will be a guru. Read up on the scripts that the control applets use to really do the work and you are most of the way there. (Stuff like the start up scripts and settings in /etc folder. One example: /etc/fstab )
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24 Jun 2015   #78
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

@MilesAhead

You can actually change that to another non-Microsoft email and you don't need to provide a mobile phone. That how I had been using window 10 preview and our outlook emails.
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24 Jun 2015   #79
newpgm

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
If you keep Linuxin' on down you will be a guru. Read up on the scripts that the control applets use to really do the work and you are most of the way there. (Stuff like the start up scripts and settings in /etc folder. One example: /etc/fstab )
Yay!
Do feel like my computer knowledge has taken a leap forward since I began to play with Linux.
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24 Jun 2015   #80
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by newpgm View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
If you keep Linuxin' on down you will be a guru. Read up on the scripts that the control applets use to really do the work and you are most of the way there. (Stuff like the start up scripts and settings in /etc folder. One example: /etc/fstab )
Yay!
Do feel like my computer knowledge has taken a leap forward since I began to play with Linux. Had some Unix experience (very little) back in the day when I worked for a large Telecom Co, should have stuck with it
Heh heh. With these new easy Linux installs the young whippersnappers think all you do is pick what you want, reboot, and up comes XWindows when you log in. But it wasn't always that way. The first time I got X going I had a book how to configure it, downloaded the libraries, modified the example lisp configuration file until the thing would load without crashing, and just did a lot of trial and error. I ripped my hair out quite a bit. But that's how I learned. The install got you to 6 virtual terminals in console mode. Plus back then not everything was PCI buss. Once PCI won the bus wars it simplified things.

Just installing a browser and getting it to work with online media was a big deal.
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