Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

Yep all my system to date were all 6-700.us range mediocre at best but decent stat's,
There were countless low end/ low powered H-P systems that were pure crap but priced similar.

There is a plus side to mandatory updates, for Microsoft anyway. At present in Windows 8. Every time your run Windows update it has to take inventory of what updates you've done and what updates you haven't done. Ever wonder why it takes so long to "Check for updates"? Then figure out what updates to offer and what order to install them in etc. That adds up to almost endless permutations of how its going to update any one PC. If all updates are done when issued, and you haven't uninstalled any, assuming they will allow that, it should be easier and quicker to update your PC. I'm still not in favor of it but I can see why they might want to do it.

MilesAhead said:

whs said:

I did not want to contradict your posting. This is my independent definition of a low cost system. I realize that 'Low Cost' means different things to different people. But I thought that this is abour as good as it gets.

If you read my post you would see I said it was a mistake to try to sell low end systems with Linux preloaded. What should be done is sell the same system you find at BestBuy with Windows preloaded, such as a $1200 quad core tower, with Linux loaded instead. This would bring the price down a bit and still provide a kick ass machine.

I compared the low end strategy to trying to sell consoles that stick on the TV for email without a real computer. I never wrote that $900 was a low end system. Quite the contrary. If the only difference was the MS license then we would have a good idea how much that adds to the cost. Which may be one reason it didn't happen. They rolled out these low end low powered machines to quash the comparison.

I at least understand your point better. I do disagree about pre-installing Linux on low end system though. I think most non-tech people normally want a system doesn't matter what operating system is on it, for as low price as they can get it and it works for their needs.

groze said:

MilesAhead said:

whs said:

I did not want to contradict your posting. This is my independent definition of a low cost system. I realize that 'Low Cost' means different things to different people. But I thought that this is abour as good as it gets.

If you read my post you would see I said it was a mistake to try to sell low end systems with Linux preloaded. What should be done is sell the same system you find at BestBuy with Windows preloaded, such as a $1200 quad core tower, with Linux loaded instead. This would bring the price down a bit and still provide a kick ass machine.

I compared the low end strategy to trying to sell consoles that stick on the TV for email without a real computer. I never wrote that $900 was a low end system. Quite the contrary. If the only difference was the MS license then we would have a good idea how much that adds to the cost. Which may be one reason it didn't happen. They rolled out these low end low powered machines to quash the comparison.

I at least understand your point better. I do disagree about pre-installing Linux on low end system though. Regardless, of whether a low end cost $500, $400, $300, $200 or $100. I think most non-tech people normally want a system doesn't matter what operating system is on it, for as low price as they can get it and it works for their needs.

I give up. I can't force anyone to read what I write. No matter.

Edit: In any case it was always my feeling what held me back in Linux was the foreign feel of the text editors. It is because of my Dos/Windows/OS2 heritage no doubt. I felt forced to concentrate on manipulating the keys rather than the content of the text. I did start to get the hang of vi for a time. But most of the time I used Kylix just to edit text as it had the Windows bindings. Last time I checked there still weren't many choices for free text editors with a Windows feel. I tried kedit and all the ones people suggest. But they don't come close to the feel of even the Kylix IDE editor.

Just my $.02 :)

For text editing in Linux I use the Writer of Libre Office. That is very similar to Word in Windows Office.

groze said:

MilesAhead I was just commenting on what I put in bold. I adjusted my quote as well.

Sorry. :) This morning it took me like 3 hours to upload a 365 KB file. I guess I was distracted. :)

carwiz said:

MS still has to maintain some order of updates even if there's no real "version". Unless they make updates mandatory (automatic with no choice), some may choose not to update and that state of the OS would have to be known.

There has been a lot of talk suggesting that W10 updates will be automatic and mandatory.

One last minute for the good old WinXP