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Windows 7: May 12th 2015 Windows Updates Security Bulletin Details

15 May 2015   #51
derekimo

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Here is how it is presented. Important on the left means Important to me.
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Sounds like you have this box checked in update settings,




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16 May 2015   #52
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Here is how it is presented. Important on the left means Important to me.
Attachment 359340
Sounds like you have this box checked in update settings,
Correct. But it still shows "Important".
This just highlights the confusion. I previously would still go with important/recommended on an equal footing by default and maybe consider optional on merit. My strategy now is make a system image before update and do not just rely on a restore point. This must make the average PC user very frustrated and consider a MAC alternative (not me mind you).
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16 May 2015   #53
derekimo

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Here is how it is presented. Important on the left means Important to me.
Attachment 359340
Sounds like you have this box checked in update settings,
Correct. But it still shows "Important".
As it should if you have that box checked. The listed classification on the right is still "Recommended".

What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?

Basically what you are doing by getting recommended updates the same as important is allowing them to be installed automatically if you have that option selected.
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16 May 2015   #54
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post

Sounds like you have this box checked in update settings,
Correct. But it still shows "Important".
As it should if you have that box checked. The listed classification on the right is still "Recommended".

What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?

Basically what you are doing by getting recommended updates the same as important is allowing them to be installed automatically if you have that option selected.
I think we are splitting hairs here. I do not have automatic installation selected and even with optional selection users shouldn't have their system trashed unless MS stated words such as "CAUTION this upgrade may have serious impacts on your system performance etc etc ...".

KB3022345 at the moment trashes some systems - a fact.
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16 May 2015   #55
derekimo

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Correct. But it still shows "Important".
As it should if you have that box checked. The listed classification on the right is still "Recommended".

What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?

Basically what you are doing by getting recommended updates the same as important is allowing them to be installed automatically if you have that option selected.
I think we are splitting hairs here. I do not have automatic installation selected and even with optional selection users shouldn't have their system trashed unless MS stated words such as "CAUTION this upgrade may have serious impacts on your system performance etc etc ...".

KB3022345 at the moment trashes some systems - a fact.
Splitting hairs? How so? You seemed to be concerned that it was listed as "Important" and that is all I was addressing.
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16 May 2015   #56
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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KB3022345 at the moment trashes some systems - a fact.
Hmm, haven't seen any trashing yet due to this update. Sure there are a lot of sfc unfixable problems but I doubt anyone would even realize those 2 files corrupted if they haven't run a scan.

Any evidence that it can trash a system?
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16 May 2015   #57
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post

As it should if you have that box checked. The listed classification on the right is still "Recommended".

What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?

Basically what you are doing by getting recommended updates the same as important is allowing them to be installed automatically if you have that option selected.
I think we are splitting hairs here. I do not have automatic installation selected and even with optional selection users shouldn't have their system trashed unless MS stated words such as "CAUTION this upgrade may have serious impacts on your system performance etc etc ...".

KB3022345 at the moment trashes some systems - a fact.
Splitting hairs? How so? You seemed to be concerned that it was listed as "Important" and that is all I was addressing.
I was concerned that an MS update reported to me as important then after installation resulted in a file system error. Maybe you could give us all a protocol for installing updates.
The update caused me hours of effort and I believe the problem lies in the MS camp.

@gokay,
"trash" maybe I should just say sfc /scannow results in unrepairable file errors. Restoring to a previous system image and excluding this update resolved the problem. Again read my previous reference that it is likely to be a region related issue.
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16 May 2015   #58
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Here is how it is presented. Important on the left means Important to me.
Attachment 359340
Sounds like you have this box checked in update settings,
Correct. But it still shows "Important".
This just highlights the confusion. I previously would still go with important/recommended on an equal footing by default and maybe consider optional on merit. My strategy now is make a system image before update and do not just rely on a restore point. This must make the average PC user very frustrated and consider a MAC alternative (not me mind you).
I shut off System Restore a long time ago because I never could get it to work in Win 7. I depend on Imaging instead; it's always been reliable for me. I always make an image before and after installing updates or making any other major changes, such as installing new software or changing settings. It's cheap insurance.
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16 May 2015   #59
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

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I shut off System Restore a long time ago because I never could get it to work in Win 7. I depend on Imaging instead; it's always been reliable for me. I always make an image before and after installing updates or making any other major changes, such as installing new software or changing settings. It's cheap insurance.
I totally agree.
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16 May 2015   #60
jamis

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I depend on Imaging instead; it's always been reliable for me. I always make an image before and after installing updates or making any other major changes, such as installing new software or changing settings. It's cheap insurance.
Absotively! I do three levels of imaging. Grandfather/Father/Son. I have the media available, so I just rotate between them for System Images. I always do a backup prior to doing updates. I also keep a backup/update log separate from Windows to keep track of things. Fortunately, I started this a long time ago.

I had issues removing KB2952664. It took forever to run the first removal and when it finished all of the update install history was gone. All of the updates were still there with their install dates, just no view history of them being installed. It actually took three uninstall attempts of this update to get it off the system and hidden.
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