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Windows 7: May 12th 2015 Windows Updates Security Bulletin Details

16 May 2015   #61
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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As it should if you have that box checked. The listed classification on the right is still "Recommended".

What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?

Basically what you are doing by getting recommended updates the same as important is allowing them to be installed automatically if you have that option selected.
I think we are splitting hairs here. I do not have automatic installation selected and even with optional selection users shouldn't have their system trashed unless MS stated words such as "CAUTION this upgrade may have serious impacts on your system performance etc etc ...".

KB3022345 at the moment trashes some systems - a fact.
Splitting hairs? How so? You seemed to be concerned that it was listed as "Important" and that is all I was addressing.

I posted a screen shot where it clearly shows the update in question as Recommended,

You show one with it in the Important Category that's a lot different and update preference settings will make it that way if set as Derek showed

The update is in Fact Recommended not Important if the settings are set correctly the update would be listed in the Optional category.


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16 May 2015   #62
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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I depend on Imaging instead; it's always been reliable for me. I always make an image before and after installing updates or making any other major changes, such as installing new software or changing settings. It's cheap insurance.
Absotively! I do three levels of imaging. Grandfather/Father/Son. I have the media available, so I just rotate between them for System Images. I always do a backup prior to doing updates. I also keep a backup/update log separate from Windows to keep track of things. Fortunately, I started this a long time ago.

I had issues removing KB2952664. It took forever to run the first removal and when it finished all of the update install history was gone. All of the updates were still there with their install dates, just no view history of them being installed. It actually took three uninstall attempts of this update to get it off the system and hidden.
I routinely image once a week (whether I need it or not) plus what I've already mentioned. Besides making sure any updates aren't going to be problematic, I wait until the end of the week after I've made my weekly image to run most updates, run the updates, then make another image. I keep the images for 8 weeks, then discard the older ones (I have the paid version of Macrium Reflect and is automatically discards images older than eight weeks). I also run my data backups after making images so the images will get backed up. And yes, I am paranoid and OCD.
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16 May 2015   #63
jamis

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

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And yes, I am paranoid and OCD.
That's OK. I'm also just an old IT guy doing what we told our customers to do with their systems. I once had a Fortune 500 customer that ran 55 distributed systems for two years without doing any backups on any of them. Then complained when the cartridge tape drives were failing when they finally decided to put fixes on. Drives were full of dust and dirt (factory & warehouse environments). Yes, I'm paranoid and OCD too!.
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16 May 2015   #64
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?
I didn't actually answer this question. Yes you are correct when unchecked they do move to optional. I have in the past generally also accepted optional updates. So I need to decide if skipping optional/recommended updates could have negative consequences. Certainly skipping KB3022345 is a good move for me.
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16 May 2015   #65
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?
I didn't actually answer this question. Yes you are correct when unchecked they do move to optional..
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16 May 2015   #66
Scoop

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Win 7x64 Home Premium OEM Version on a built Desktop w/Asus MoBo


I did my "Saturday after Patch Tuesday" installs earlier today (Cloned the "C"/OS HDD yesterday), including KB3022345 since I was curious to see what "SFC" (VERIFYONLY) would report before and after the install.

Sure enough, SFC reported system file errors after this one installed. I uninstalled it and re-ran "SFC / VERIFYONLY", and all was ok, no reported system file errors reported.

After rebooting, KB3022345 reappeared in the WU list. Hid it for now.

I looked at my "sfcdetails.txt" file (search output from CBS.log to Desktop) and saw the corrupted file reports before uninstalling 3022345 and afterward.
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16 May 2015   #67
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

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Win 7x64 Home Premium OEM Version on a built Desktop w/Asus MoBo

Sure enough, SFC reported system file errors after this one installed. I uninstalled it and re-ran "SFC / VERIFYONLY", and all was ok, no reported system file errors reported.

After rebooting, KB3022345 reappeared in the WU list. Hid it for now.
Yes and the fact that it was optional/recommended as opposed to "important" still makes it a problem if you try to install it. I recommend making a system image before installing any updates now.
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16 May 2015   #68
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

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What happens when you uncheck that box? Does it move to "Optional"?
I didn't actually answer this question. Yes you are correct when unchecked they do move to optional..
Your attempt at humor I guess. It doesn't change the fact that this "optional" update (KB3022345) is causing some people grief and that's why I raised it.
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16 May 2015   #69
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

That's why Optional or recommended updates should not be loaded (if at all) until later
No humor buddy just glad you now realize it was not an important update
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16 May 2015   #70
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Doesn't Bode Well

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I depend on Imaging instead; it's always been reliable for me. I always make an image before and after installing updates or making any other major changes, such as installing new software or changing settings. It's cheap insurance.
I create backup images prior to installing any "Patch Tuesday" Updates.
I've been doing this for 6 years (since I first got a free imaging program).

This sort of fiasco is why I don't have much confidence in MS' new plan of pushing out updates "every few seconds" for W10.
MS had better restore the ability to turn off auto-updating (once W10 is released) unless they want constant bad publicity.

If they don't, people are going to have to unplug their network cables to protect themselves.
I don't want to have to image my PC prior to plugging in the network cable everyday.

I guess my options will be, stick with W7 and/or use Linux Mint every time I want to use the Internet.
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